Blair, just wanted to second Mark's and Rick's comments about HJG's DC-10s. Take the time to put the files together correctly, and secondly, RTFM found in the online forums at HJG. The immersion, especially from cold and dark, is second to none in the freeware universe. I d/l the updated Big 10 about a month ago, and haven't put it down. The AP switches all work as required and FDE is very well done. This is a very high quality airplane. Even though the FS experience is grand, IF you get into a bind, the team @HJG are terrific in helping get things sorted out. MOST of the time (98%) the issue is operator error. The best part.... when a person makes a DUMB move, they don't make you feel like a dummy. Great team to work with. You WILL enjoy that DC-10. Blue skies.....Terry