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Hi Everyone. I am, for the first time since XP started, unable to Start / Load XPlane. First try stopped at "Will initialize ATC", second "Done with preloading" and it will Not go beyond that. I would suggest to everyone to stay away from XP12.

Hi. It is just good enough to run 2D in very limited mode. XP12 is very inefficient and if you have the Digital version it will become useless and revert back to Demo unless you can re validate using the Internet. As the message states you MUST upgrade your driver version to at least 516.94, again another sign that the new programmers they have are very inexperienced and trying to use certain features of the new drivers to make up for the lack of experience. I suggest you start out with your sliders in a very conservative mode / low settings and slowly work your way up, unless you want to go through a lot of frustration.

Hi. I was able to find a fix for the new files, “N844X.systems.lua”, located in: ….Aircraft\Laminar Research\Lancair Evolution\plugins\xlua and “n844x_exterior.obj” located in: ...Aircraft\Laminar Research\Lancair Evolution\objects, and got them to work with the proper spelling, chalks >chocks Just copy the 2 included files to the proper location, remove the ,txt extension, and make sure you assign a key to the Toggle chocks in Setting >Keyboard. Note: Rename / Save your old files. And these 2 new ones, and keep track on the next Update these files will be overwritten and if the problem is not fixed by LR you will need to go through this process again. The new update has some aerodynamics improvements and it may be worth giving it another try? Still a way to go on ground handling. n844x_exterior.obj.txt N844X.systems.lua.txt

If you are flying the Lancair Evolution (REvolution), I do not use it much, the flight model / dynamics is not very good in my opinion, you may have noticed that the front wheel has the chocks permanently attached. Someone had the name misspelled originally and that works, "chalks", renamed to "chocks". proper, which does not. To fix, until LR awakes up and does properly, it flies better with them on, but if it bothers your visually, replace the file: "N844X.systems.lua", save the original first or rename to something other than . lua, located in: ...\Aircraft\Laminar Research\Lancair Evolution\plugins\xlua\scripts\N844X.systems with the one include here or if you have an older version saved you can use that. Remove the .txt extension the name should be: N844X.systems.lua Post here if you have any questions or problems. N844X.systems.lua.txt

Hi. The new beta seems to be a problem for anyone that has a NV GTX 10xx series and Win10 OS, and multiple Datarefs, not the Private ones, have their name changed rendering many Scripts useless. It stops during Done with preloading... In addition there seems to be no improvement for anything GA. What a mess, just wondering if they lost their main programmer, I've never seen anything that disorganized coming from them. You can go back to 04rc3 if you deselect (not select) the Beta radio. If anyone with the above NV boards managed to install it, please post your Driver nr, OS..

Hi. I think that is the right decission. I do not know if you are a Real World (RW) but if you you are and looking for a good setup for low and slow and want to see ground references, 2D only / flat, you can use Ortho4XP app. Or dload ortho scenery which I consider a required addition for RW pilots, but this typicality is lower resolution Zoom Level (ZL) 16-16, but if you get do it you can get ZL 18-19, large files / a lot of storage, that looks very close to 3D and you need no trees, nor a lot of buildings... that can increase you FPS (Frame rate). If you are a high and heavy flyer the default scenery / setup. Yes, it's too bad that LR has decided to prioritize eye candy and neglect the Flight (model) portion of the the simulator in XP12, they had a good base in XP11 but someone there dicide to try and compete with Adobo rather than do what they are good at. Post here if you need more info.

Hi. I will be honest at this point XP12 is not something anyone should buy, especially if you do not have a very powerful system, Nvidia 3090, and a CPU 5.0GHz, anything less is just a compromise and head ache. If XPlane is something that you want to get into I would suggest XP11 maybe the Steam that was selling around $30.00. It's what I recommend to everyone I interface with at this point. I suggested in the past to some to get XP12 and now that I see that they will not be fixing some of the issues I would not and there are actually some users, a couple of students, that want to get a refund. You will not likely get good results in 4K, or VR with anything less. Some things you can try is to reduce your Texture>Quality, SSAO>None, FSR > Quality, AA>2X, AF>Max no 3D trees, Clouds> Low, Shadow> Acft only, Rendering>High, Objects>Low, Vegetation >Minimal. If that works for you you can try to increase some sliders, if not try reducing Textures, Rendering, AA... Post your systems specs here and I will try give a you / post here, some LUA Scripts that may help. If you have your MSFS stay with it, unless you have a lot of time on your hands. XP12 Is Not a real Flight sim at this point, not even a good scenery sim in my opinion.

Hi. Before you get XP12 try the Demo, the FP is limited to 9 waypoints?, from what I understand. I do not use the heavies but the FP may be the least of your problems.

I have an update on one possible procedure that may work for others that I used. I replaced the latest X-Plane.exe with an old version 1200r6 and I used the installer to upgrade to the version without the beta being selected. After about 1 hr of "Do you want to replace the old files"... it updated to 1203r1 and it now starts up but I was not able to evaluate to what level it works. Note: If you already have XP12, and value your sanity, do Not download the betas. If you do not have XP12, I suggest you do not get it, try XP11 instead. I am not sure how long, if ever, XP12 will take to be useful, if ever, but I would not suggest that you download the beta versions.

Hi, If you are using Nvidia GTX series, 1070, 1080 and enable Zink, new feature, the sim will no longer start. Re installing the sim using the Installer will Not fix the problem. Make sure you have / keep an older complete version saved before you use b3. I found no solution for it yet, it may require a complete new installation? I have no idea what is going on at LR, but things that are a problem for the users never get fixed, like dark cockpits... and they keep adding new features that completely render the sim useless.

Hi JP. You can try Steam, below. I only use CDs / DVDs and I am not familiar with the process, I am sure others here will give you more details on how to go about it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/269950/XPlane_11/ No, actually if you fly High / Heavies the Default LR scenery may be acceptable to you? Z18 if for Low / Very low flying, below 5000 AGL, and at that ZL you can recognize the terrain you are flying over, if you a re a RW (Real World) pilot, You can actually make out the trees and many other buildings, objects on the ground but they are 2D / flat but with a good texture and lighting they can almost look 3D if you get the right source. See pic included that shows the trees and buildings.....

Hi everyone. X-Plane 12 is Not something that I would consider at this point regardless of your ability to run it or not. It just has too many problems,, some are very difficult to understand why they exist. If your system can run XP11 I would get that. XP10 runs better on older systems, but not much better, but XP11 has some improvements that make it a better choice in my opinion. Scenery wise, the XP11 default, if you like it, does cover portions of the North / Alaska but there are some issues navigating if you get closer to the Poles. The good thing is that you can make your own free scenery using Ortho4XP that can give you photo imagery and if you use Zoom Level (ZL) 18 you can get very good low level scenery and do away with trees, objects... that are not needed with that ZL, which improves your Frame rate (FPS). The problem is that in that area North / AK the tiles are not very good and you may get different colors / textures and you will have to do some painting yourself to fix it. Another possibility is Payware which can get very expensive and not much better in my opinion. I just helped a buddy of mine that wanted a CD / DVD version of XP11 and they are getting difficult to find if you want XP11 you may need to get the Digital version and I think there are some discounts for around $30.00?

Hi everyone. What does it take to run it in 4K? In the systems I tested, I7 4.9 GTX1070, and another with GTX 1080 at 4.7, it it will not get above 15 FPS during the time right before Sunset. The clear visibility is like looking out of a gold fish bowl, radius around 3-4 SM regardless of the time of day or settings. Anything beyond that is a muddy mess. Settings I tested in: Mode 4K, Text Qual-High, SSAO-None, FSR-Off, AA-FXAA, AF-4x, Cloud-Low, Shadow-Acft Only, rest OFF, Render Dist-High, Objects-Low,. Veget-Minimal, Parked Acft-Only, No Clouds, Vis-40. From everything I see right now that is not a practical sim. There are some people that I know that want to ask for the money back. They accepted the fact that beta may not be useful, but now that it is released they feel that it is very little hope that it will ever be useful. I think the lighting is the main issue but they seem to be insisting on it. Anyone else have a better experience? Please include system specs , settings...

Hi. You should try and get a set of rudder pedals, some used are available like the CH Propedalds USB for under $50.00. To use XPlane without a Rudder input assign None to the Rudder axis and you get some Autocoordination not very good but something you can try.

Hi. I would proceed with caution in using anything from act, scenery... from the older version XP versions. Everything has been touched / changed to some degree. I have no idea why, new people that did not understand the old code? Some changes make no sense. When you make changes do one thing at the time and keep good track of them. The easy way out, with some exceptions, is to use the Installer again to repair / update.

Hi. What system do you run on? I've only had one lock up in b8 and I used the Task manager to get out. XP12 has been very disruptive to a lot of users and I, like many, am trying to understand what is going on at LR. Many of the people I am around, long time users, are mystified, everything was in a way or another altered, hardly any continuity at all. They've been lured in by the other bunch and they took the bait, I hope they can recover, there is nothing of substance that was added, just some eye candy that turns Real World view into some psychedelic world. I would imagine someone on some sort of mind altering substance would enjoy it, but it's hard for a Real World pilot to accept it? Try b11, you may already have it, and reduce some of the sliders, Clouds, AA, AF, Nr of Objects, Visibility, seems to be the worst offenders, they tend to lock the system up. Not necessarily in that order depending on your set up, AMD users seem to suffer the most. Good luck.

Hi. Just keep pressing Enter to continue. I've had that a few times but it typically gets it done in less than 1 hr on 400Kb rate. A complete XP12 is only about 34 GB with a complete World scenery. If you have XP11 on DVDs and the DVD1 is in the bay, take it out. The installer tends to get confused with that In. If you buy XP12 you can also get XP11 Product code, which I recommend, to XP11, chichi is a better product at this time.

Hi. If you have FSX set up properly, scenery, addons... you will likely get no additional benefit from XPlane. If you want to try XPlane you can purchase XPane 12 beta and also get access / product code for XPlane 11, I am not sure if that is true for Steam also? which I would use, XP12 is still in a stage that is not practical for most users. Needs a very powerful computer and a lot of polish logic in it at this stage. Looks someone is just trying new things, trying to keep up with the jones / assobos, that make no practical sense / difference.

Hi. If your Calibration in Win looks OK, make sure you only ha One Function assigned to One axis / button.

Hi. Yes, I agree, the lighting is way overdone. Get your time closer to Sunset and look to the East / behind you, you will see this very very black sky, and black lines over the ocean. I think that can be fixed at some point, but there are many things like Views, resources dedicated to Clouds, Trees.. that may not be as easy to resolve? Another thing that upsets me is that the existing Ortho needs to be twicked at the Ocean edges / water due to the Waves they added, that is Not a big issue, but I have over 4TB of Ortho scenery. I've been flying since the 70-80, in CA, and just about every other state, when there was a lot of pollution and never seen the clouds look like that. I do like the color, but that does not make them Real World like in my opinion. When it comes down to it it's what you are happy with, and if XP12 is something you are comfortable with and like, it's the only thing that is important. I could care less about fancy tree, Static acft, grass, 3D clouds..., Give me clouds that look like clouds when I get in them I cannot see anything outside, an acft , preferably something like 182Rg, where I can get in and be able to simulate all the Commercial maneuvers and landings in Xwind.., close to Real looking Airports, and Ortho as close to ZL18 as possible, and I am a happy clam. Yes I know It will likely take 10 times the storage that I have now, but I have enough around where I fly at a good enough resolution where I can recognize the area that I fly over. I like the no Homes, very low object count, and the Ortho without homes / small buildings is a lot more real life looking than Assobo carp also. We immediately need a Neutral density filter for the Sun, a way to make Clouds, Few, look like clouds not hundred of little yellowish blotches close to Sunset, and some good Light GA acft with good flight model. I am getting close to getting the C172 in XP12, there were some improvements in it, but they broke other things, to being acceptable. Have a good weekend.

Hi. That is impressive / useless to any Real World pilot. Your argued the point that the the blurries are due to "not enough gpu memory", I asked you to post your VFR view at that location and now you post a blurry mess. Useless stuff, rain drops, overdone light effects, creepy trees popping up like rodents, planes that fly and taxi like brisks, clouds that look like bird poo, planes that crash while tied down, what part of that makes for a useful sim? No improvements on Flight model, Visual model, no Obstacles, no real mesh improvement and or any real scenery improvement. Someone is just playing doing things they are having fun with, and trying to demonstrate their "programming" / useless skills at the expense of others. They took a fairly decent sim and turned it into useless app. Back to your pic, what the heck is that did you just fly into a forest fire, aftermath of a nuclear blast? What is that in real life like? The closest I've seen anything to this in real life was a sand storm in AZ.

Hi everyone. When I post something is Not to undermine and or unfairly criticize any sim. I back to sims, and Real World aviation, before PC existed where I wrote my own Nav ADF, VOR sim. I go back with X-Plane to floppy disk and supported it and most other sims presently, and some now gone, and would like them all to succeed. It is to my personal and selfish interest and to the benefit of others. I've lobbied with FAA, AOPA.... to get the sims accepted as useful to Real World aviation. Assobo has messed up big time and LR is following the same route. I am still in the process of getting the C172, in XP12, to behave, and set cockpit view close to what it should. I have so far made over 10 changes and I am still Not there, I just got the XP11 to behave close to a useful tool. Having those trees pop up as some rodents drive me to quit using it, and not be able to fly the sim as pure VFR during Sunset time, my favorite VFR time is likely to drive me away from it completely. @ transcontinental, please post a pic with the Sunset view on the KLGB ILS 15 miles out, similar to what I have, and let me see what your system pic looks like and your settings. I evaluate a sim as a Tool for myself and a possibility to recommend it to others and I take it seriously. At this point I do not see a sufficiently value added, above XP11, to justify recommending it to others to buy / use it.

Hi. I've gone that route in Tracking, Multi monitors, VR, MS and XP ... and ended up getting a good Jstick, Throttle, Rudder, combo and with the proper assignments to you will not need them. Start with the Jstick Twist assigned to View Left / Right...

Hi. No it never asked me for the XP12,which is a Digital dload from LR, but it keeps asking me for the DVD for XP11. My understanding is that after you get the the digital XP12 it should no longer ask for the XP11 key but it may only be if you get the XP12 at the same time with getting the Free XP11? Where did you get your program from, where is it installed, do you also have XP11..? It may help the rest of us to see if we can duplicate what you see. I have about 5 versions ox Xp11 and at least 2 of XP12 on different drives but None in the ..Program directory.

Hi. I admire your set up and appreciate the amount of work and effort it takes to build something like that. Over the years I've gone trough many combinations, Moving platforms, multiple screens... and I am now back to one large monitor, 4K with some very unusual controller assignments to allow me the views I need to perform the operations I need. I use the sims as a tool for GA, and recommend it to others that may be interested in aviation. As to the above points, with respect, except for #6 I have no real interest in, they were fine, actually better, in XP11. I do not see the practicality in most of the so called added features, and in #6 look at the C172 in Straight and Level flight. Try a 45 Deg bank turn and exit looking at the fuselage as you exit. That is not how a 172 or any other light GA behaves. Someone got carried away wit lighting and useless stuff making the sim useless for most people that used the XP11 with a reasonable frame rates. I am sure they did that driven by one the worst release in history, the Assobo bunch, and trying to compete with them for visuals / useless features. I expected more from them. I still support them but I have very little hope for them fixing things given all the necessary computational power / processing required to keep running some these useless "features" Drive way leading to the homes? I've been RW flying for a very long time, never ever have i looked at any driveways, or 3D trees, and I hardly think that some of those orange / yellow droppings, in the Clouds Few can be called RW representation of anything called clouds. See some of the pics included, in Clear settings the same location and time which is what I mostly use, and compare it to XP11, in XP12 is basically useless as VFR. And all that at about a loss of 1/2 or more of the FPS. I appreciate any substantiated comments that would show a different point of view. I understand that this is Beta but some of the things that are not proper are pointing to lack of interest in the product like the C172 SL flight.