davidc2

Hi is there an option in fs like x plane were like if u turn the plane left or right and the view tilts with the plane like the land goes around the plane? sorry if i am not explaining it right ...

Not sure what it's called, but when I am in cockpit mode and I hit the "end" key, the view does slew like what you are describing.

All of a sudden when I try to start MSFS I get the title page for Microsoft Gaming Services. It freezes there and will not go any further. MSFS will not even start to load. Microsoft spent 90 minutes trying to fix this to no avail. Has anyone else had this problem? Or could someone send me in some direction for help. I'm lost.

Have you tried looking at this site??

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/

You could save a copy of your UserCFG.opt file which saves your graphics settings, I believe, but the rest are stored in the cloud. I guess there must be a way that I don't know about, but I have used the screenshot method in the past too.

That is a start, thanks!

I finally have my settings tweaked to where there are NO stutters, everything is looking good.

My question is, can I save these settings, is there a way (besides screenshots, which I suspect may be what I have to do) to export them, both Nvidia and the MSFS ones?

Good News David main thing is it worked it was most likely a combination........

Very likely :)

Well, I did a reboot and took another flight, no changes!! It is nice to look straight down in VR and NOT see the micro stutters that were coming every 3 seconds. Has made flying that much more enjoyable!!!

Well, today while looking through You Tube, I watched this video, found out that several of my 3D settings were not set to what the person in the video had, so I switched them, did some fiddling with the ingame settings and tried a flight. It worked!!!

Tried it in VR as well, no more stutters. Now, I am kicking myself because I am not sure exactly what fixed the problem, but one of the items it mentioned in the Nvidia section was Low Latency, which was off for me.

Here is the link to the video

I am not declarin git 100% fixed (yet), still going to do some rebooots and see if the settings hold :)

Are you sure that all of your MSFS is located on the SSD drive? The stutter you describe sounds just like the delay a seek to a HD would create if it was fetching some data from a HD.

Reasonably sure. I put it on my "F" drive SSD. Of course, there are some parts on my "C" drive, but it also an SSD

It's usually your antivirus scanning any program which has an active internet connection. If you add MSFS to your antivirus whitelist/exceptions list, this should stop.

I had already done that Tim, however :) I had forgotten that I had moved the sim to a new SSD. Added that in, checked firewall.

We shall see, trying a flight now.

I forgot to mention try both DX 11 and 12 to see if either of those are the issue..... Mine tends to run smoother in DX11... and maybe experiment with lowering the screen resolution if possible and do you have XMP turned on in Bios .... I can not think of anything else at the moment, sorry David..... When all is siad and done and at the end of your tether maybe a reinstall of MSFS I done that a few times in the past to solve an issue....

I have actually tried both version's of DX, does not matter. DX11 does seem to be better.

As for screen resolution, I have been up and down on that, I usually run at 1600X900, but maxed it out after reading that someone suggested going 4K (sounded crazy but I tried it, no joy).

My Internet connection is nice, 600+, tried it with it off as well, seeing if that was the problem. Did not matter.

My memory is in XMP.

I have also reinstalled MSFS, went from a regular HD drive to an SSD. I did get a lot faster loading speeds, lol, but that was it.

Something is causing my system to pause exactly every 3 seconds. Grrrrrr :)

"I don't have that option, on mine it's either off, on or Fast

yet we both have the same card except mine is water cooled...... Have you also updated Gforce Experience? I suggest doing a clean install see video below... I did some months back it did not improve performance for me.... but remember not all rigs are equal, you may like many others benefit from a clean driver install.......

 

I was able to find the option you were referencing in the sim and adjusted it. Did not help.

I also installed the drivers the Clean Way, used DDU, went into Safe Mode, reinstalled just the minimum.

Just a hunch set vertical sync to adaptive (half refresh rate) that helped my stutters...... I also limit the frame rate to 60

 

I don't have that option, on mine it's either off, on or Fast

 

Attaching screenshot.

FS2020 has gone tango uniform on me, possibly for good (thank God for XP12!). It will not start up, and just sits on the Malibu splash screen with the little logo "syncing data" going, little dots spinning merrily but to no effect whatsoever.

 

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is going on with this silly thing?

Have you (a) shut down the program and rebooted and (b) signed out of MS Store, resigned in

Well, my 3D settings HAD changed, guessing the driver update removed them (I did use DDU)

The one video I rewateched mentioned thermal load, no problems there, I monitor my CPU temps a lot.

I did reduce my max frame rate down to 31, and a few other settings mentioned in the video, things are a bit better, however, still having stutters :(

Did you get the new driver for the GPU? it was released today... also some 3D tweaking to be done in Nvidia settings.... I found it made a big difference for my setup after some tweaking... may want to look at some youtube vids on the 3070 3D settings for MSFS... I can post screenshots of my settings later, if helpfull....

Yes, I did get the new driver today, tried it both in DLSS and without, no change :(

I will at the You Tube videos, I have made changes to the 3d setup, but I could have missed something :)

I am reaching out to the MSFS Community looking (hoping) for a fix to my stutter issues with MSFS 2020.

My specs are below in my signature. Tim has helped me in the past, and things did improve A LOT!!!! However, we were unable to rid them completely.

Here is what I have found, and what I have done

I have Googled this problem and read/watched a lot of articles and You Tube videos. I feel this is a CPU problem, I know MSFS uses only one core of the CPU, thus I have attempted to reduce the workload of the CPU. In the sim, I have no AI traffic, no ships, no road traffic, clouds are at their lowest setting (could turn them off I guess) My graphics settings do not seem to matter. Using VR or not using it does not matter, same problem

I am running VR HP Reverb, getting 60+ FPS, settings are very high, some are ultra. From my studying, I have read that certain parts of the settings need to be lowered because they are CPU intensive, so I have lowered them.

While in Developers mode, with the FPS counter and CPU activity going, I freeze/stutter every 3 seconds. Like clock work, every 3 seconds the sim will micro stutter, then continue. This does not matter where I am flying, could be Jacksonville FL (not that much to see), middle of Kansas, NYC, London, I still get the micro stutter every 3 seconds.

I don't mind going into the BIOS and adjusting a setting, assuming I know what setting I need to adjust. I have reinstalled the sim to a SSD drive as well.

All the Windows Updates are, up to date, latest Nvidia drivers.

What other information can I provide?

Just another vote for using the MS Store - one less middleman in the process? Steam can always blame Microsoft for any problems- lol

I agree on MS Store as well. Has it been perfect? No, but :) the folks here helped me to get through the problems that I've encountered.

I too accidently installed the latest Nvidia Studio Driver (517.40) thinking it was the updated Game Ready Driver. Fired up the simulator with SU 10 installed but found the cockpit shaking badly in VR and artifacts galore. It almost made me sick and was completely unplayable. I reverted back to the newest Game Ready Driver (516.94) and now the artifacts are gone but the cockpit still shakes, although not near as violently, but it is playable. There was never any cockpit shaking before SU 10 update with the 516.94 Game Ready Driver. Does anyone else have this happen in VR after SU 10 update? Any suggestions. I am using Windows 11.

Is there a difference between the Game Ready driver and the standard ones? Just wondering which one I should be using??

I too accidently installed the latest Nvidia Studio Driver (517.40) thinking it was the updated Game Ready Driver. Fired up the simulator with SU 10 installed but found the cockpit shaking badly in VR and artifacts galore. It almost made me sick and was completely unplayable. I reverted back to the newest Game Ready Driver (516.94) and now the artifacts are gone but the cockpit still shakes, although not near as violently, but it is playable. There was never any cockpit shaking before SU 10 update with the 516.94 Game Ready Driver. Does anyone else have this happen in VR after SU 10 update? Any suggestions. I am using Windows 11.

The only problem I had was when I tried using DX12, had a CTD, went back to DX11.

Well, I also had some bad artifacts with the DLSS set to max settings, could not switch it fast enough. No cockpit shaking though

I mainly fly low and slow prop singles and would like to be able to reference the compass, problem is in all the aircraft I fly the compass is simply unreadable even if I zoom in its always dark and indistinct.

Is it just my setup or is this just how it is?

 

P.S. Thanks for letting me in:)

I too fly the same way, however :)

I plan my routes with a LOT of waypoints, taking me over various parts of a city that I am flying in, looking at the sights. I am usually 1,000 AGL, set the autopilot and just relax.

Just a thought :)

I have had to MSFS2020 shutdowns when I attempted fullscreen view from within windows so for now I am in windowed mode but as wide as it will go. Message said GPU overheating. Will be testing further.

I use https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html CPUID HW Monitor when I was seeing where my overheating issues were coming from.

Ditto!

Been using a wireless setup for years, not a single problem with MSFS

It took me over an hour. The first two gigs were super fast, but once the MSFS loaded and started updating, it was an hour later. The ingame updates (8 of them) took less then 10 minutes.

Performance wise, no issues, I did find that while using VR and the drone camera, the movement is a lot faster and appears to be smoother.

Tried to get this information doing a search, but no answer.

The one number I get is 150gb. I assume that buying the premium version with more content would be a larger download than the basic version which I would likely buy.

I'm trying to lessen the amount I add on to my Hard drive.

Does anyone know what the download size is between the different versions?

On the couple of times that I have had to reinstall it varied between 98-120 gigs. That is just the Standard version, you still have to download the other versions as well, plus the World Updates (if you want them). All in all, perhaps 400-500 gigs (just a guess)