Melo965 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 14 hours ago, Sirrus said: What sort of range do you get from your Spit? My longest recent flight was just over 800 miles. I can fairly easily fly the published range of 1,360 miles. Once (in my FS98 version of the PRXI) I managed to fly about 2,000 miles from an island off of Southern California to Hilo Hawaii without refuelling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder Nels_Anderson Posted March 27 Founder Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, TomPenDragon said: Boston!!!! My old stomping grounds! IRL, my home field was KDXR, and I've landed Cherokees at KOWD a time or two. In the sim (FS9), I used to fly into Gillette for home games (Go Patriots!). Wow, people with ties to my local area. I learned to fly in real life at KOWD, and have landed real Cherokees there probably a thousand times! I've been to KDXR in real life and of course Mansfield many times. I often use KOWD as my "home" in flight sim these days, or 6B6 where I was also based many years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirrus Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 56 minutes ago, Melo965 said: My longest recent flight was just over 800 miles. I can fairly easily fly the published range of 1,360 miles. Once (in my FS98 version of the PRXI) I managed to fly about 2,000 miles from an island off of Southern California to Hilo Hawaii without refuelling. I wonder if "range" means there and back, which would give a point A to B distance of 2720 miles? Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melo965 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Sirrus said: I wonder if "range" means there and back In this case, range means one way. So with a range of 1,360 miles, the PR Spitfire could go 680 miles to the photographic target and back again. With a 170 gallon slipper tank the published range is 2,301 miles, or 1,150 miles there and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhrogPhlyer Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 22 minutes ago, Sirrus said: I wonder if "range" means there and back, Range means total distance from T/O to Landing at standard cruise speed/fuel burn. Always Aviate, then Navigate, then Communicate. And never be low on Fuel, Altitude, Airspeed, or Ideas. Laptop, Intel Core i7 CPU 1.80GHz 2.30 GHz, 8GB RAM, 64-bit, NVIDIA GeoForce MX 130, Extra large coffee-black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirrus Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 minutes ago, Melo965 said: In this case, range means one way. So with a range of 1,360 miles, the PR Spitfire could go 680 miles to the photographic target and back again. With a 170 gallon slipper tank the published range is 2,301 miles, or 1,150 miles there and back again. Thanks Melo, that helps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossspecops Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Melo965 said: In this case, range means one way. So with a range of 1,360 miles, the PR Spitfire could go 680 miles to the photographic target and back again. With a 170 gallon slipper tank the published range is 2,301 miles, or 1,150 miles there and back again. Or to Berlin and back from the UK. 1 Regards Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirrus Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Bossspecops said: Or to Berlin and back from the UK. Thanks, Kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, PhrogPhlyer said: Range means total distance from T/O to Landing at standard cruise speed/fuel burn. And yes, that's always one way data! On any flight if your range isn't enough to complete the flight as planned,you might (probably will) end up dead! HELLO!! Being an old chopper guy I usually fly low and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPenDragon Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Nels_Anderson said: Wow, people with ties to my local area. I learned to fly in real life at KOWD, and have landed real Cherokees there probably a thousand times! I've been to KDXR in real life and of course Mansfield many times. I often use KOWD as my "home" in flight sim these days, or 6B6 where I was also based many years. Small world! (and spherical, too, as of FSX...) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossspecops Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Another leg on my homeward route flown today, and not without drama. The plan was to leave Sproat Lake and fly to Missoula Int. in Montana, but to go via Melo's home airfield at Bremerton and scare the pants off them with a low fly by. That meant a short leg flying directly south and then east to Montana, so I was up early prepping 'Austral Rose', not wanting to show her up with her big sisters out there in the Lake! Amazingly as I started off down the slipway one of the Mars started up too, and those four Wrights 'out-boomed' my two puny Gipsy Queens by a HUGE factor! I followed the Mars across the Lake to the 'threshold' of the water runway, feeling pretty overwhelmed in the face of such competition I can tell you. Naturally I had to wait till the tanker took-off, their flight was a much higher priority than mine, and hearing the four big radials rev up was amazing. The Mars really is one HUGE aeroplane, the only flying boat I've seen that was any larger was the SARO Princess, my Sealand's VERY big sister! As soon as the tanker had started her run I turned into wind and followed her across the lake, but she soon outpaced me. We were headed in different directions so I didn't get a chance to follow the big tanker as she turned north and I was headed south. So that was bye-bye to Sproat Lake and the tanker operation, something really special in the flying boat world. I had to divert from the direct path to Bremerton as the hills south of Sproat Lake were too high for me to climb over without circling more than a few times, so I diverted east into a river valley and then south toward Melo's place. The river valley was filled with mist and cloud and I was in IMC almost right away, so there were very few scenic items to be seen. Turning to the south west by GPS I lined up with Bremerton's 20 runway as well as I could without being able to see it, and started a slow descent to the agreed 50 ft above the field, which is 444 ft asl. As I approached the airfield boundary the mists cleared and it all popped into view, very handy for me as I was almost on track and just a bit south of the runway. Note the altitude top left in the screenie, taken from the Shift-Z data on the sim. It says '472 ft', so I was actually 28 ft above the runway! GULP! Getting out of there as fast as I possibly could I turned south and then east toward Seattle and Montana. That's Seattle-Tacoma Int. arrowed in the pic below. After crossing what I thought was the Rockies, it wasn't, they came along further east, I passed over a neat little field that looked worth visiting one day at Pangborn Meml, which is the name of a small town I know quite well here in the UK, but we have an 'e' on the end of our Pangbourne, and a 'u' in the middle. Further east the scenery looked very strange as there was a distinct east-west line where vegetation stopped and desert type conditions started. Very odd. Further on I climbed over the Rockies proper, a SERIOUS line of mountains, but none reached as high as my 10000 ft cruise thank goodness. There were a surprising number of large lakes up there too, and I was tempted to do a few 'splash and goes', but I had to be in Missoula for lunch, so kept going. After a while I reached a really significant point, the Mullan Pass, which is right on the Continental Divide, so all the rivers west of here flow into the Pacific and all of them east flow into the Atlantic or the Caribbean. Coming down from the Rockie's peaks I was soon approaching Missoula and picked up their ILS from a LONG way out, but it only seemed to work in azimuth and not in altitude for some reason. You can just see their runway below, with me being MUCH too high at this point! Throttling back and lowering some flap got me down on the proper glide path and I was soon on finals there. My add-on scenery for Missoula was an FS9 package and I fly FSX these days so those strange black bits all over the place are all part of one sim not understanding the other, and it gets worse...... Taxi-ing into toward Northstar Air Express, my FBO here, I passed some more tankers, but slightly smaller than the mighty Mars. These were converted Lockheed P2V-7 Neptunes, but as you can see they're a trifle 'skeletal'. Thank you M$ for making your various level sims incompatible...... Soon I was parked up in the NAE hangar and off to Missoula City to find a bed and somewhere to eat. Tomorrow I'm off to a place I know REALLY well, Minneapolis, but I'll be landing at Flying Cloud Airport in the west of the city, which is only 5-6 miles from my old employer's head offices. Regards Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melo965 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 29 minutes ago, Bossspecops said: I was almost on track and just a bit south of the runway. Note the altitude top left in the screenie, taken from the Shift-Z data on the sim. It says '472 ft', so I was actually 28 ft above the runway! GULP! Excellent job, Kit! Well Done! Note that the second runway on the left at Bremerton with the X was closed before I moved here in 2019. It is currently used as a drag strip for cars. I have only flown aircraft here, in FSX, MS2020, and the Real World. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taoftedal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Bossspecops said: Minneapolis, but I'll be landing at Flying Cloud Airport No place like home Bosss ... I use KFCM as a home base (given my Minnesota roots) as well as others in the Upper Midwest. If you have time let me take you out for dinner ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossspecops Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, taoftedal said: No place like home Bosss ... I use KFCM as a home base (given my Minnesota roots) as well as others in the Upper Midwest. If you have time let me take you out for dinner ... Small World again. There used to be a great diner just on the north side of KFCM, overlooking Staring Lake, is it still there? The last time I ate there was in 2008 so all sorts could have happened to it by now. Regards Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirrus Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 14 hours ago, Rupert said: 18 hours ago, PhrogPhlyer said: Range means total distance from T/O to Landing at standard cruise speed/fuel burn. And yes, that's always one way data! On any flight if your range isn't enough to complete the flight as planned,you might (probably will) end up dead! HELLO!! No need to be rude or sarcastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperPilot2 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 C'mon, guys... "I created the Little Black Book to keep myself from getting killed..." -- Captain Elrey Borge Jeppesen AMD 1.9GB/8GB RAM/AMD VISION 1GB GPU/500 GB HDD/WIN 7 PRO 64/FS9 CFS CFS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taoftedal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 hours ago, Bossspecops said: There used to be a great diner just on the north side of KFCM, overlooking Staring Lake Nothing that I know of now ... the 'Lions Tap' is just to the south and overlooks the Minnesota River Valley ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossspecops Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, taoftedal said: Nothing that I know of now ... the 'Lions Tap' is just to the south and overlooks the Minnesota River Valley ... Oh yeah, I remember the Lions Tap too, had some great burgers there. Regards Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperPilot2 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Look... I'm not going to stand for this Behaviour here. You guys settle your Scores via PM, or else take it elsewhere. THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WARNING. We're ADULTS here, FFS! If you don't have something germane to add to the Conversation or nice to say, please CURB THY TONGUE. 1 "I created the Little Black Book to keep myself from getting killed..." -- Captain Elrey Borge Jeppesen AMD 1.9GB/8GB RAM/AMD VISION 1GB GPU/500 GB HDD/WIN 7 PRO 64/FS9 CFS CFS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taoftedal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Bossspecops said: I remember ... had some great burgers there. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melo965 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Halifax International (CYHZ) Canada to John F. Kennedy International Airport (KJFK) USA Pre-flight done, ready to start the engine. The aircraft marshallers helped me turn my Spitfire around before getting started so I would have an easier time taxiing out. In a cold mist and fog! Will wait a bit to open the canopy. Taxi hold to wait for the Cherokee 180 to pass by. The tower tells me that I am the only aircraft taking off after the Cherokee landed, so I may proceed at pilot's discretion. Lined up on runway 15. View is looking back toward the terminal but everything is shrouded in fog. Advancing throttle for take off on runway 15. Using pilot's discretion to get on course as quickly as possible. Saw some lights ahead in the fog and decided to investigate. "Tower, this is Ghostrider requesting a Flyby!" Tower view of my Spitfire. Luckily they can't read my tail number in this pea soup. Full throttle, getting out of Canada as quick as I can. Climbing through 9,300 ft and on course. Grateful to be clear of that fog and mist below. 30 minutes elapsed. Leaving Halifax, although you can't see it below. 1 hour of flight. Flying over the Bay of Fundy with solid overcast below. 1 hour and 20 minutes. Almost feet dry over the USA. 90 minutes of flight. 1 hour and 38 minutes elapsed. Finally able to clearly see some countryside below. 11 minutes shy of 2 hours flying time. 2 hours and 1 minute. Almost directly overhead LaGuardia Airport (KLGA). Staying above 10,000 ft to clear their class B airspace before descent. Down to 1,600 feet near New York City. Couldn't resist a 200 kt 100 foot flyby. Gear and flaps down and approaching John F. Kennedy International Airport (KJFK). My plan was to swing around and land on the longest runway 31L. At 2,200 feet. Tower just informed me that my downwind leg for 31L was just changed to a base leg for 22R due to a large jet that needs 31L. At this point I am way too high for a smooth approach to the new runway. Note to self, pick a smaller airport for the next leg. Curved approach, on short Final for 22R. Over the numbers. Full stop landing. Not my best landing, but down safe. Parked at John F. Kennedy International Airport (KJFK). All those big jets must be parked on the other side of the airport. Next stop is Allegheny County Airport (KAGC) near Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. My old stomping grounds. Here is where I did my first real world landing (with an Instructor) in a Beechcraft Model 19 Musketeer Sport after 2.5 hours of flight instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taoftedal Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Just a teaser ... all cleaned and polished ready for the Meigs Mini ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, taoftedal said: Just a teaser ... all cleaned and polished ready for the Meigs Mini ... Is that the one with the dog inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melo965 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 55 minutes ago, taoftedal said: all cleaned and polished ready for the Meigs Mini Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossspecops Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Melo965 said: 1 hour of flight. Flying over the Bay of Fundy with solid overcast below. Small World time again, the Bay of Fundy is the only place in the whole WORLD with a higher tide rise and fall than EGDF. For real, I'm not joking. Love that pic BTW. 1 Regards Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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