Stevemill

I wish. Someone did a great utility to read the Controls file of Elite Dangerous and turn it into a picture. That would be so useful.

Ah. I see. Bad show all round.

Might it be worth just going with STEAM to take advantage of its ability to resume a download from wherever it last was?

thrustmaster hotas. It’s mid range price. You can add pedals but the stick has a twist grip for rudders. I have used my set or a couple of years in Elite Dangerous and now this.

Yes, the T16000m default settings were mostly fine and easily tweaked.

New to the internet huh? ;)

When you want to use VS, you also have to tell it what to do and how to do it. This is how I do it. 1. Set the desired altitude. 2. Activate vs. 3. Set the climb or descent rate 4. If it isn’t active - Activate AP. And f you thnk it is active - check anyway. It’s very easy to inadvertently cancel AP when changing modes. 5. Watch the VSI and adjust throttle accordingly. The AP is easily confused and it is very easy to accidentally confuse it. You need to clearly tell it what to do, one Non contradictory step and one non contradictory thing at a time. It’s no use telling it to turn to follow a new waypoint bearing of 76 degrees (with say, a default height of 7500 metres that you forgot to change) while also setting vs to descend to 2000 metres. It often cannot handle the contradiction and resorts to default behaviour - which usually seems to be ‘If in doubt bank hard left and plummet at full speed towards the ground’. You have to treat it like an idiot, easily confused and murderously petulant child.

Flying VFR in GA it’s working fine. You just have to get a feel for what confuses it sometimes. There’s lots of videos around that are good guides.

It depends what you want to do. I fly General Aviation VFR and once I figured out the way to use the autopilot I’ve had virtually no problems abd huge amounts of enjoyment.

Yes, I would appreciate it as well but flying VFR I find the heading and altitude autopilot functions to be rock solid.

Genuine question - do all Garmin aircraft have a keyboard? I know that for instance, the craft cub in game has a virtual keyboard built in but my understanding is that in some aircraft the actual input method is knob twiddling and this is what is being simulated. I stand to be corrected. I also wouldn’t say no to keyboard entry because it is a PITA. But with autopilot holding heading and altitude, not too much of a pain.

Yep. My new box is all AMD and runs great.

Not giving up, in fact it’s the best game I’ve played for years. The t16000m and rudder set works fine and as a GA VFR flyer I’ve had no real issues once I learned how to handle the autopilot. Thanks to this I have been rebitten by the flying bug and have bought 3 sturmovik games and dabbled in DCS. If you’re heavily invested in a matured sim and it does more things better than this does at the moment then stay with it. Just don’t underestimate the impact this one is having on people who either haven’t touched a flight sim before or maybe like me, for a couple of decades. People who didn’t want to spend hundreds of pounds making tiny bits of the world not look like crap in FSX or whatever. We are not all furloughed pilots looking to keep current. We want to explore the world, do and see stuff we can never hope to do and learn a bit about flying. And in the end it’s going to be the non-professional new to the genre types whose money is going to help keep this thing growing and getting better. It’s good now and if it’s not strangled at birth by people who demand study level perfection out of the box, it will get better and better and bring a new generation of revitalising consumers into the genre. Meanwhile if it doesn’t meet your needs why not go and play your favourite mature sim and stop trying to dampen the enthusiasm of the rest of us or put potential buyers off by giving wildly misleading information on the state of the game on release. Sure, this thing isn’t perfect at launch but Newsflash - FSX still wasn’t perfect a decade or so later when it was laid in the ground and every other sim gets new assholes ripped by disgruntled punters every day.

Even after the update I’m still missing the Land Now button. :)

‘The horror ... the horror.’

Yes there are certainly issues with using Bing as a base as it is often years out of date. My only dalliance with serious Simming was FSX vanilla so it was easy to leave behind. If I had a fully mature product with a heavy time and money investment and no SSD space I would find it hard to walk away. I just throw my two penneth into these threads because some people are wildly exaggerating the impact of the issues when the truth is that at least for GA VFR the autopilot works fine once you understand what confuses it. And that is by far the biggest issue a new simmer will come up against. I think it would be a real shame if a whole new generation of potential simmers were discouraged from experiencing what for this new simmer is an incredible experience delivered by an amazing feat of software development. The whole world or a good quality facsimile thereof, all for £60. When I wake up it really is a case of ‘where will I fly today.’

Just head to the store from Windows 10 and buy the cheapest version. That will be the standard. You eill then have the option to download the installer. This installs the 90gb plus full game.

I’ve been island hopping In real time from Bali across the Pacific to Papua New Guinea and then across to New Zealand via Norfolk Island in a Cessna Caravan this week. Does that count?

Sure. That’s bad and needs fixing. But I would bet my house on MSFS if we played The ‘which flight sim is missing the most airstrips’ game. Anyway - it’s not a competition. MSFS is great for players like me. Looks awesome right out of the box, Low buy-in, works fine for GA VFR, autopilot working fine but if others value the huge aircraft range and complexity of established sims then that’s also fine.

I must be from the future then Cool.

In that case - you’re welcome.

The update is now live.

Not as of an hour ago.

Installed fine and haven’t had any problems other than the occasional autopilot wonkiness, that can be easily worked around. Meanwhile I’ve spent the last two days island hopping a Caravan from Bali to Papua New Guinea and down the length of the county to Port Moresby. I know beta tests and this is no beta test. It’s the first release of a mammoth and complex program.

Not seen this and I have launched it twice today. Odd.