Kapitan

yes, instruments, in fsx p3d nobody messed with .air files either

we are just in the beginning, to be able make better air files you need to know what your doing, you need a manpower that matches or beats the Asobo staff.

Im sure if in future some PMDG or another serious developpers has better ideas for files that are encrypted MS will give them the key.

Why is it so important if its ready or not ?

It has been said from inside sources that it was intentionally released early.

Because its such a complex sim that interlinks weather factors with engine, fuel consumption and aerodynamics a group of teen alpha beta testers was taking too long to address all the issues, re-test, and even then they would never be sure.

Because MSFS is so popular, if not the most popular un-advertised game in the world, they realized that in order to solve the bugs FASTER, they had to release it early and let the millions of users bring the issues. They would immediately identify the real from the imaginary by the amount of same tickets for an issue.

Its so simple, so elemental my dear Watson

Why do you think you are smart to realize its not ready.

Yes, we know, they know, everybody knows...it was intentional, thats how its suppose to be: not ready

we are the real beta testers prior an Xbox release that since has kids as main consumers must arrive clean of bugs!

Now you have a choice, get a refund or fly in the best sim ever, discovering, learning, and identifying improvements in the process. It doesn't matter what you choose, the world is full of simmers that WANT IT early anyway as it is and help it get better

But stop crying saying "its not ready" and get a job!!

Its been informed and MS ASOBO team already acknowledge it.

They might fix it without anytime one day you turn the game on and its "searching for updates"

Intentionally my friend. They suspend the sensitivity feature for some time to see how are the different brand controls working. The problem was that users were reporting tickets of "control problems" and MS would never know if they messed up the Sensitivity features

Once they are sure all controls work fine they will reinstate the feature

The thing is, in planes your hand grips firmly on the yoke.

The plane will always try to go left even with calm wind due to Torque and P factor

In a real plane your hand makes great pleasure if you feel the yoke wants to move

in the sim you are calm and relaxed and expect that just your fingers are enough to control the plane inside the computer.

So it was on previous versions. The plane wont turn if you maintain a firm grip applying opposite force, in airliners the ailerons are trimmed automatically

In GA your hand must not let the plane do what it wants, but instead what you want.

Heres some literature

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Propeller torque effect

Torque effect is the influence of engine torque on aircraft movement and control. It is generally exhibited as a left turning tendency in piston single engine propeller driven aircraft.

According to Newton's law, "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction," such that the propeller, if turning clockwise (when viewed from the cockpit), imparts a tendency for the aircraft to rotate counterclockwise. Since most single engine aircraft have propellers rotating clockwise, they rotate to the left, pushing the left wing down.

Typically, the pilot is expected to counter this force through the control inputs. To counter the aircraft roll left, the pilot applies right aileron.

It is important to understand that torque is a movement about the roll axis. Aileron controls roll. Prop torque is not countered by moving the rudder or by setting rudder trim. It is countered by moving or trimming the aileron.

This correction induces adverse yaw, which is corrected by moving or trimming the rudder (right rudder).

On aircraft with contrarotating propellers (propellers that rotate in opposite directions) the torque from the two propellers cancel each other out, so that no compensation is needed.

Further Reading: Propeller Torque Factor

P-Factor

P-factor is the term for asymmetric propeller loading, that causes the airplane to yaw to the left when at high angles of attack.

Assuming a clockwise rotating propeller it is caused by the descending right side of the propeller (as seen from the rear) having a higher angle of attack relative to the oncoming air, and thus generating a higher air flow and thrust than the ascending blade on the left side, which at the other hand will generate less airflow and thrust. This will move the propellers aerodynamic centre to the right of the planes centreline, thus inducing an increasing yaw moment to the left with increasing angle of attack or increasing power. With increasing airspeed and decreasing angle of attack less right rudder will be required to maintain coordinated flight.

This occurs only when the propeller is not meeting the oncoming airflow head-on, for example when an aircraft is moving down the runway at a nose-high attitude (in essence at high angle of attack), as is the case with tail-draggers. Aircraft with tricycle landing gear maintain a level attitude on the takeoff roll run, so there is little P-factor during takeoff roll until lift off.

When having a negative angle of attack the yaw moment will instead be to the right and and left rudder will be required to maintain coordinated flight. However negative angles of attack is rarely encountered in normal flight. In all cases, though, the effect is weaker than prop wash.

Those who complain the planes are dodgy or difficult to control, when I fly them with two fingers and so well trimmed sometimes dont even need to touch the yoke....let me tell you a story

Last year using P3D a friend came to visit me, never heard of the sim but was interested. I showed him how easy it was to fly straight and level. I took off and gave him the controls to try the sim for the first time.

The plane was flying virtually without needing to touch it. Only two fingers here and there

When I passed the controls to him...you know what happened?

It jerked from one side to the other, spin out of control.

- "Its very hard to control", he said

I know it was not, simply he was not trained for it. He was not a pilot, or a sim pilot

Same thing happens in MSFS, those of you complaining are just coming from an "easier" flightsim and are either not used to a more demanding sim, or never have piloted a real either

much better here also!

still exploring

So long! stay safe and have long years with FS9 which I stopped using in 2006

after making many 2D cockpit addons for it

Im really glad MSFS is tough and dodgy on simers used to unrealistic FDE

Yes my friend, in real life its even more dodgy, plane twitches in all 3d dimensions, wind force you to fly sideways nearly always. If you are too high on approach you must learn to apply opposite pedal-aileron to reduce height without gaining speed (forward-slip) and many other techniques simmers dont even need to bother in a sim.

I really wish those who cannot handle it will go back to where they came from fs9 fsx p3d xplane so we can put threads about real flying techniques in autopilot in airbus or garmin and other issues that were eased down for amateurs in other sim versions

Are you sure you haven got random failures on?

What about icing? was anti-ice on?

Yeah, the config files for the premium planes are encrypted, so you can't edit them...

(I originally wanted to get the premium packages too, but when I heard about the encryption I decided to stay with the standard version, and give my money to devs who let me tweak their planes.)

 

But what happens if you just pop a systems.cfg from a regular plane into the premium's plane folder? Will this overwrite the default one perhaps? (Of course, it might not be a perfect match, but it's worth a try.)

who said that?

Im already using a tweaked 787 MOD that made several improvements on the default just search for 787 in the github site

All planes are editable easy, xml files edited with notepad

Besides you dont even have to worry backing up the original files because all changes go in the Community folder leaving default files untouched

I think its awesome.

Just landed a flight with overcast weather in the Airbus, in FMC all working in detail with the Mod

upgrade.

On Monday i thought: I think Im going to reinstall XPlane so I can fly the 737 zibo while theres is no alternative in MSFS. Did that. Started the sim and got the "shock change" , visuals that are not even close to MSFS. Took off, flew a while and thought: naaaaa, what am i doing here, this is a step down.

Interrupted the flight, quit the sim, uninstalled

You see I tried to go back, its just not possible, once you try the several enhancements of MSFS, specially regarding aerodynamics and how the Airbus thrust speed responds to changes in temperature, wind, attitude, ...you go to the FMC, change the Air temperature and you ll hear the thrust adjusting, change weather settings the thrust and speed struggle adapting to the new environment in a way no other sim did before, its reading all the nature forces

No way Im going to the past

the work around is empty the Community (copy to another dir) folder, start the game, start a flight, close the sim, add your personal files to community

this was already happening before the patch with Neo Mod updates, everytime they updated the airbus it was not enough to add it to community, you needed to delete the previous MOD, start the game with a clean default airbus and only after this close the sim and put the MOD in community

to ALL

have you recalibrated your joystick in windows?

same here, I calibrated in windows again but no luck

It could be intentional

by allowing sensitivity settings MS was getting lots of ticket issues of control problems and they would never be able to tell if user messed up the sensitivity

They will leave it unavailable for time enough to make sure controls work well across all brands and maybe later on when they will reinstate the feature to allow user preference?

Why most avatar pilots are blacks or dark skinned, one oriental couple and look like rough? (Out of a fighting game, poorly shaven)

Why arent there no middle aged pilots or senior captains with grey or white hair (ageism?)

Why there no blondes, balds?

In all...why dont they put avatars that look more like real people? Is that a technological difficulty?

In trying to be political correct MS has put up a poorly representative group of real aviation pilots

Hope to see more plurality in future patches

Speaking of wasting time: this post suggests that you must have time on your hands. If you don't want an addon, don't download it. Simple.

havent downloaded any freeware scenery yet

meaning that paying is out of the question.

We have too much of eye candy in non populated areas.

We need good planes, analogue, and Ai traffic with real airlines (which in turn are only possible with planes), bugs resolved, better real weather and seasons

Speaking of wasting time: this post suggests that you must have time on your hands. If you don't want an addon, don't download it. Simple.

havent downloaded any freeware scenery yet, meaning that paying is out of the question.

We have too much of eye candy in non populated areas.

We need good planes, analogue, and Ai traffic with real airlines (which in turn are only possible with planes), bugs resolved, better real weather and seasons

It's no big deal anymore. When I start seeing the colorful squiggly lights I immediately sit down or pull over if driving and let it go through it's cycle of about 20 minutes or so then I move on with my day. My doctor had no idea what was going on with me until I looked it up on the internet. Then I showed him and he then understood. I thought I had a brain tumor, but no, just visual migraines. I had the painful migraines about 30 years ago but they went away and were replaced with the visuals. So I can relate to your pain. I did purchase some computer glasses and they work great! They are not cheap either. I think I paid $50 US currency for them but I love them. They seem to have different focal distances depending on where you look through them (computer screen, keyboard, paperwork you're typing from, etc). Give them a try. They may help.

Thanks! i think i need one too