Flaps-Gear warning sounds

[beroun]

Hi,

got few aircraft with nonrealistic warning sound when flaps are extended. I say nonrealistic because the speed is definitely low enough to enable the safe flap extensions, yet the sound is there? The gear extension usually silences it. But it is also not realistic because it is usually too early to extend the gear. Note that I tried to reduce the flaps damaging speed and blow-out speed figures in aircraft.cfg but it did not seem to help.

Any advise on how to adjust these warning sounds to realistic levels (probably in aircraft.cfg or air file) would be much appreciated.

MANY thanks for any advise.

Peter

[tiger1962]

Hi Peter,

The warning you're hearing is the gear extension warning, which happens when the flaps are extended beyond a certain angle while the gear is still up, regardless of speed.

If you've reduced the flap damage and blow-out speeds you've made it worse - you need to increase them. Here's the relevant section from a Saab 340:

 

damaging-speed=175.0

blowout-speed=185.0

flaps-position.0=0.00

flaps-position.1=7.00, 175.0

flaps-position.2=15.00, 175.0

flaps-position.3=20.00, 165.0

flaps-position.4=35.00, 140.0

 

The damage speed reduces for each increase in flap angle, but you can raise or lower these limits as required.

[tgibson_new]

Hi,

 

The gear extension warning system (which is what you are talking about, they do not care about speeds) is this section in the plane's aircraft.cfg file:

 

[gear_warning_system]

gear_warning_available = 1

pct_throttle_limit = 0.15

flap_limit_power = 31.647890

flap_limit_idle = 0.0

 

pct_throttle_limit means that if the plane is in the air and the flaps are at or above the flap_limit_idle value (flaps can be up in this case) and you reduce the throttle below 15% (in this case), the gear warning will sound.

 

flap_limit_power means that if the gear is up and the flaps are greater than this value (30 deg. in this case), then the gear warning will sound (no matter the throttle position).

 

Hope this helps,

[mrzippy]

I think Tom is hinting at making a small change so that the warning is eliminated.

 

gear_warning_available = 0

[beroun]

Gents,

as always

MANY THANKS!

Peter

[tgibson_new]

Or just modify the values and get it working properly. :)

[beroun]

Thanks Tom,

have experimented a lot but never really fine tuned it. Is there any setting, which would trigger the gear warning ONLY when the flaps are fully extended? Regardless of speed or anything else.

Please le me know.

Many thanks

Peter

[napamule2]

Try this:

 

damaging-speed=175.0

blowout-speed=185.0

flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000

flaps-position.1= 7.000, 0.000

flaps-position.2=15.000, 0.000

flaps-position.3=20.000, 0.000

flaps-position.4=35.000, 0.000

 

[gear_warning_system]

gear_warning_available = 1

pct_throttle_limit = 0.10 //throttle above idle

flap_limit_power = 34.000 //full flaps at any power

flap_limit_idle = 34.000 //full flaps at idle

 

Substitute your paticular airplane flaps values. Let us know if this worked for you.

Chuck B

Napamule

[beroun]

MANY Thanks Chuck,

works perfect. I just did one (common sense) adjustment. The aircraft I needed this on (L1011) has the max flap extension 30, so have changed your 34 to 29:

[gear_warning_system]

gear_warning_available = 1

pct_throttle_limit = 0.10 //throttle above idle

flap_limit_power = 29.000 //full flaps at any power

flap_limit_idle = 29.000 //full flaps at idle

.....

Great Help. Again, Many Thanks

Peter

[napamule2]

Glad it worked for you. Takes a little 'fiddling' sometimes. Hate to admit how many times I landed (when I first got started simming 15 years ago) with the gear up. Haha. Did not get back as yesterday was my BirthDay and I took the 'day off' (from simming anyway). Cheers.

Chuck B

Napamule