beroun Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Hi, I know this was tackled before and I did have a go with AI Smooth with not too much success. But just curious if any other attempts were made to separate aircraft on approaches and landings. It seems to be bit of non realistic feature in FS and achieving more realistic separation would be great. Thanks for any thoughts. Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 The other program that attempted this is called AI Separation. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbeauchamp Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I def prefer AI Seperation and does a good job if you have it configured pretty well for the airport you are flying into. But AI Smooth takes account of your aircraft where Separation does not but I quite often put AI Smooth on when I am on approach which gives me some room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Hi Peter, I can recommend using both Ai Smooth and AI Separation together, but to get the best of both worlds you need to edit the Settings in both programs as below: AI Smooth: Distance of AI aircraft to landing aircraft: 5.000000 Distance of user aircraft to landing aircraft: 5.000000 Heading range for intercept: 1 Global approach fix distance: 0.000000 Minimum Separation time: 1 User plane response: Ticked Show ATC message: Unticked Landing release altitude: 3.000000 Min. centerline distance: 0.000000 Reduce speed on approach: Unticked Speak ATC Messages: Unticked Control Batchsize, Poll Interval, Command Delay: Unchanged AI Separation: Min Separation: 6 Desired Separation: 8 Refresh rate: 5 Heading difference: 20 No move zone: 6 Reduced separation zone start: 35 Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Many thanks gents, will have a go at it. Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambo22 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Many thanks gents, will have a go at it. Use both with above settings should reduce but not a complete fix to remove such situations. One needs higher AI taxi speeds, and a good AFCAD to help out those two programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspaulding Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Out of curiosity, what is the default speed for AI on approach? I've never really known nor figured it out. It is obviously coded for different types but I'm sure for simplicity it's a general value. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschlute Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Out of curiosity, what is the default speed for AI on approach? I've never really known nor figured it out. It is obviously coded for different types but I'm sure for simplicity it's a general value. Thanks. I imagine it is a speed added to the flaps-up stall speed which is defined in the aircraft.cfg file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hi Peter, I can recommend using both Ai Smooth and AI Separation together, but to get the best of both worlds you need to edit the Settings in both programs as below: AI Smooth: Distance of AI aircraft to landing aircraft: 5.000000 Distance of user aircraft to landing aircraft: 5.000000 Heading range for intercept: 1 Global approach fix distance: 0.000000 Minimum Separation time: 1 User plane response: Ticked Show ATC message: Unticked Landing release altitude: 3.000000 Min. centerline distance: 0.000000 Reduce speed on approach: Unticked Speak ATC Messages: Unticked Control Batchsize, Poll Interval, Command Delay: Unchanged AI Separation: Min Separation: 6 Desired Separation: 8 Refresh rate: 5 Heading difference: 20 No move zone: 6 Reduced separation zone start: 35 Thanks for this. I downloaded the file that had these settings here in the library and for the life of me I don't know what I did with it and what the file name was. There is another App that will also speed up taxi speed as well. Off the top of my head I don't remember the name without looking on my desktop. I'm on the laptop atm. If I get on there I'll share the program name. I think it was like TP something or other. Come to think of it, that may have been for increasing the time an aircraft disappears from the taxiway. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambo22 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 use editvoice pack it automatically speed up my AI speed and ATC speech speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwillmot Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just one of MANY that have been created for FS2004. FS2004 (ACOF) - Misc. FS2004 Taxi Speed Increase Utility [ Download | View ] Name: taxispd.zip Size: 8,231 Date: 08-06-2003 Downloads: 16,938 FS2004 Taxi Speed Increase Utility for AI aircraft. This tool will allow you to increase the default taxi speed of all AI aircraft to a more realistic value. By John A. Stottlemire. FlusiFix & FS9 Configurator are others.... et al. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbeauchamp Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just one of MANY that have been created for FS2004. FS2004 (ACOF) - Misc. FS2004 Taxi Speed Increase Utility [ Download | View ] Name: taxispd.zip Size: 8,231 Date: 08-06-2003 Downloads: 16,938 FS2004 Taxi Speed Increase Utility for AI aircraft. This tool will allow you to increase the default taxi speed of all AI aircraft to a more realistic value. By John A. Stottlemire. FlusiFix & FS9 Configurator are others.... et al. Is one better than the other for AI taxi speed? I have always used FS Config to play around and increase - specifically the runway speed after landing more to get the things clear of the runway quicker but I found that one never really worked independently and all AI taxi speed would change not just the vacating traffic when doing in FS Config? Nick B Long Time FS9 and AI traffic junkie âœˆï¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing_Z Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Flusifix has separate settings for rwy/taxiways. I get my AI to fall over on vacating the active, and then wind back 5kts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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