Flight Tuning Question?

I notice in some aircraft.cfg files the [flight_tuning] section is missing but the aircraft still flies OK, any idea or reason for this section to be there?

 

Col.

Would suggest you obtain a copy of the FS9 Aircraft Container SDK which explains this (and a whole lot more).

 

Basically, if there are no parameters which need to be altered (upwards or downwards), the values revert to the default (1.0) so there appears to be little need to include that particular section in the .cfg file.

 

Regards,

Dorian

Hi Dorian, Yes I kind of figured that, but if they revert to the default (1.0) I wonder why they sometimes include the section in the cfg with all the parameters set to 1.0?

 

Col.

That section can be altered - elevator effectiveness etc to your taste. I do it all the time. However some should be left alone unless you know what your doing.

 

You can always copy a section from a cfg file that has the section, set all parameters to 1 if necessary, then change specifics as you desire - mostly control effect, trim effectiveness. Many airplanes handle like crap wrt trim characteristics and elevator effectiveness especially

Edited October 30, 2021 by mikeandpatty

I often include it in case I need to make changes, but then find I do not need to. Thus the section remains will all 1s.

So if this section overrides the what is already in the cfg, then if it is added won't it effect the parameters in the cfg if that makes sense?

 

This also got me thinking what other things can be added to this section if it overrides what is in the cfg, might be worth experimenting.

 

Col.

@Dorian, I have used air files from jets on prop aircraft and they have flown great.

you will notice a lot of CalClassics use the Boeing737 air file and they fly perfect, I tend to use that too on many occasions.

 

Col.

I hardly ever dabble in the arcane art of .air/.cfg files ... I leave that to wiser folk than me ;)

 

Regards,

Dorian

Sometimes you will get an ai type aircraft that takes off then just flies straight and won't turn, when that happens first thing I do is change the air file for the default Boeing737 and it turns and follows the course.

 

Col.

Hi,

I like my aircraft to fly as realistic as possible.

So if it flies like a brick IRL, it should fly like a brick in FS2004.

If a B747 flies like a jet fighter, it's not really a simulator anymore...

 

Regards,

DDP.

Agree- but if a model DOES NOT fly like the real thing or at least within reason, the aircraft.cfg file often can improve it rather than fiddling with the air file, which is often unnecessary and over many people's heads.

I agree Mike, I have often changed the aircraft.cfg, I like to dabble with AI and at times I have to tweak things a bit to get them to fly right, sometimes a quick tweak other times a few hours till I get it right.

 

I once spent 2 days on a German sea plane that I changed to AI, I managed it in the end now funny enough I never use it lol.

 

Col.

I just want to emphasize that swapping the air file with the 737 one is only for AI aircraft, don't try that for flyable aircraft unless it is a twin jet.

Hi Tom, yes I should have said I only apply the 737 on some prop AI types.

 

I did make a mistake not long ago changing the air file, I added a second line so the aircraft had 2 different air files and it flew OK.

So did the sim only read the fist one and ignore the second?

 

example

sim=xx1

sim=yy1

 

Col.

"I like my aircraft to fly as realistic as possible.

So if it flies like a brick IRL, it should fly like a brick in FS2004.

If a B747 flies like a jet fighter, it's not really a simulator anymore..."

 

Finally someone with common sense ...

 

BUT many , many , many like it the other way around! and their motto is:

"Do not take it to seriously .." and do NOT simulate they rather play Video games on a Simulator.

 

Sincerely

 

G. Kirschstein

"I like my aircraft to fly as realistic as possible.

So if it flies like a brick IRL, it should fly like a brick in FS2004.

If a B747 flies like a jet fighter, it's not really a simulator anymore..."

 

Finally someone with common sense ...

 

BUT many , many , many like it the other way around! and their motto is:

"Do not take it to seriously .." and do NOT simulate they rather play Video games on a Simulator.

 

Sincerely

 

G. Kirschstein

 

But the difference - even a small one - is worth it!

I don't know which it picked, probably the last one?

@malcott

 

"But the difference - even a small one - is worth it! "

 

WHAT are you trying to point out with this kind of BALONY !!

 

Sincerely

 

G. Kirschstein

 

P.S. The motto of many should be : I do NOT know BUT a lot of it !! UNBELIEVABLE ignoran t people here !!