malct Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Hi All. I was on a low budget when setting up my PC for the FS2020 and i ended up buying the XFX AMD Radeon RX 570 (8GB) Graphics Card and to be honest, My first flights flying over lanzarote and its volcanos was giving me 30 FPS and since then my FPS is now averaging 15, I have the FPS set at 30 in the settings and followed a few tips on youtube. I am now thinking of upgrading the graphics card to the AMD Radeon RX 5700, But thought i would ask the question on here for advice. Since i only use my PC for the Flight sim, What graphics card do you recommend. first thought is, Buy a RX 5700, 2nd thought, Buy the lower spec model RX5500 to save some money, But what will the visual Experience be like when playing the game or hold out and buy the RX6800 card when it is more available. Maybe others are in the same situation, Will it be worthwhile paying X number of pounds if the difference in visual Experience will be very little. Would love to hear your thoughts. Regards my PC, i have a Intel® Core i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz with 16Gb of Ram, Windows 10 , power supply 650 Thank you for any thoughts Malc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Hi, I don’t know much about the RX700 but if you were to get it then I would suggest upgrading your PSU too. The “recommended†psu is 700w but I would suggest even more. Probably 750 or 800w Another thing to think of.. although upgrading your graphics card will help, you may find that your CPU becomes a bottleneck? Plus you maybe should consider upgrading your RAM to 32 Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Thanks Steve, to be honest, i made to many cut backs when i upgraded my PC and i should have bought a higher watt PSU, , It was the Corsair 650 w PSU which was fine for the RX570 but limits me from upgrading to the RX5700 since there are only a few that require a 600W PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I think they say 600w is the bare minimum you can use with the RX5700 but we all know you should go higher, especially when they recommend higher. I upgraded my GPU back in April to the RTX2080ti. Half an our hour after ordering, it occurred to me that I might need a better psu so had to place a second order. The psu is often overlooked but is just as important. Of course I upgraded my pc again in August, including the psu again! LOL Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shb7 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 If you hit windows-G it will bring up a game resourse monitor, so you can see exactly what your using. If anything is only half used, no point in upgrading it. I recommend a rtx 3080 graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 If you hit windows-G it will bring up a game resourse monitor, so you can see exactly what your using. If anything is only half used, no point in upgrading it. I recommend a rtx 3080 graphics card. He won’t benefit from an RTX30 series card without changing his PSU, CPU (& possibly motherboard) & ram.. new computer basically. Expensive! Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainsman Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) This link may be helpful. Note this is for medium settings, but assumes a very strong CPU. Nonetheless, it will give you an idea about the ranking of graphics cards, even though your fps will not be this strong on any of them. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wGS6q8SG4WNU6NQscv9Nfh.png The 5600XT might work, but I would avoid the 5500XT. If you plan to run higher settings you need the 5700 or 5700XT. Edited November 29, 2020 by plainsman I7-9700K, RTX-2070, Asus Strix Z-390-H MB, 32gb G Skill 3000 CL15, Corsair Obsidian 750D case, WD Black 1tb M.2, Crucial CT500MX SSD, Seasonic Prime 750W Titanium PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 This link may be helpful. Note this is for medium settings, but assumes a very strong CPU. Nonetheless, it will give you an idea about the ranking of graphics cards, even though your fps will not be this strong on any of them. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wGS6q8SG4WNU6NQscv9Nfh.png The 5600XT might work, but I would avoid the 5500XT. If you plan to run higher settings you need the 5700 or 5700XT. Thank you for your help Plainsman , That chart is a good help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shb7 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 He won’t benefit from an RTX30 series card without changing his PSU, CPU (& possibly motherboard) & ram.. new computer basically. Expensive! Regards Steve Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspinall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I run the RX5600XT and the graphics are first-class...... just sayin ASRock X570 TAICHI Mother Board AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.79 GHz *Overclocked* Corsair 240mm H100i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Intel/AMD CPU Liquid Cooler Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 64GB 3600MHz *Overclocked* MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB SUPRIM X Ampere. 1000W PSU. Samsung 870 EVO 2TB SSD. HP Reverb G2 + Oculus Quest 2 Samsung Odyssey G9 C49G95TSSR - QLED monitor - curved - 49" - 5120 x 1440 Dual Quad HD @ 240 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Noted its the XFX RX 5600 XT Thicc III ULTRA which i believe is more powerful, I have no room for the Thicc , It would be sitting over other cables . Are you using high settings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspinall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Noted its the XFX RX 5600 XT Thicc III ULTRA which i believe is more powerful, I have no room for the Thicc , It would be sitting over other cables . Are you using high settings ? I did at first, then I found myself tuning everything down ha and when I say everything I mean the ram speed too...... and the board speed.... odd but it works this end... Just a thought it would be prudent to check if you have any bottlenecks in your rig..... Edited November 30, 2020 by daspinall ASRock X570 TAICHI Mother Board AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.79 GHz *Overclocked* Corsair 240mm H100i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Intel/AMD CPU Liquid Cooler Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 64GB 3600MHz *Overclocked* MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB SUPRIM X Ampere. 1000W PSU. Samsung 870 EVO 2TB SSD. HP Reverb G2 + Oculus Quest 2 Samsung Odyssey G9 C49G95TSSR - QLED monitor - curved - 49" - 5120 x 1440 Dual Quad HD @ 240 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspinall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 forgot to mention when I bought the RX5600TX i also replaced the PSU which was 550W for a 850W PSU I think this is a must do upgrade..... ASRock X570 TAICHI Mother Board AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.79 GHz *Overclocked* Corsair 240mm H100i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Intel/AMD CPU Liquid Cooler Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 64GB 3600MHz *Overclocked* MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB SUPRIM X Ampere. 1000W PSU. Samsung 870 EVO 2TB SSD. HP Reverb G2 + Oculus Quest 2 Samsung Odyssey G9 C49G95TSSR - QLED monitor - curved - 49" - 5120 x 1440 Dual Quad HD @ 240 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Why is that? Because his current cpu will cause a bottleneck. He would have to change his CPU & probably his motherboard. He would definitely need a new psu.. & would be advisable for more ram. Ultimately he would have to buy a new pc. Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) I thought my CPU would have been good enough, It might have been cheaper buying a new PC. Regards Graphics cards, There is a shortage now, so waiting for new stock. Just wonder if they are forcing people into buying the latest cards Edited November 30, 2020 by malct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainsman Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Your CPU may be adequate, depending on the resolution and settings you plan to use. If you are running 1080p and particularly if you can run a mix of medium and high settings, you should be OK. If you plan to run 1440k at ultra settings, you will need a new system. I7-9700K, RTX-2070, Asus Strix Z-390-H MB, 32gb G Skill 3000 CL15, Corsair Obsidian 750D case, WD Black 1tb M.2, Crucial CT500MX SSD, Seasonic Prime 750W Titanium PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspinall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) I thought my CPU would have been good enough, It might have been cheaper buying a new PC. Regards Graphics cards, There is a shortage now, so waiting for new stock. Just wonder if they are forcing people into buying the latest cards I don't think it's the intentions of the developers to force us to upgrade, rather present us with the latest and greatest leaps forward in the game industry. we seems to be the ones lagging behind for want of a better expression.... I hope you sort it out soon..... did you watch the video (Documentery) that's been posted this release of the sim is truly cutting edge compared to previous releases Edited November 30, 2020 by daspinall ASRock X570 TAICHI Mother Board AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.79 GHz *Overclocked* Corsair 240mm H100i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Intel/AMD CPU Liquid Cooler Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 64GB 3600MHz *Overclocked* MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24GB SUPRIM X Ampere. 1000W PSU. Samsung 870 EVO 2TB SSD. HP Reverb G2 + Oculus Quest 2 Samsung Odyssey G9 C49G95TSSR - QLED monitor - curved - 49" - 5120 x 1440 Dual Quad HD @ 240 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcartmell Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I thought I sent this but can't find it. Here is a site that evaluates the performance of various cpu and gpu combinations. Might help in your search. https://pc-builds.com/compare/ AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, GIGABYTE AMD Radeon 5700XT, 32mb DDR4 RAM @ 3600 mbs, Asrock X570 motherboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shb7 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I think someone is editing/deleting posts to this thread without telling us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 I have a Old dell XPS that i could upgrade. Regards the Radeon 570, Its playable, its only now and again that i get issues. Its how much money that your going to spend. So far i have spent £400 in total and thats a lot of money just to play 1 game. Daspinall, Do you have a link to that Documentery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Hi, this is the documentary he was referring to... Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malct Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Thanks Steve, I am half way through the program, Just making a cup of tea and will watch the rest, Really enjoying the program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I agree, it really is superb. Glad you’re enjoying it (the video, not the tea :) ) Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cianpars Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I recently upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 2700, then got an RTX 3070 GPU. I now need to get another CPU, probably a Ryzen 5600. As I'm not using 4k, I'm hoping these specs will be OK with 32 gb RAM. Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia 3080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g7rta Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I did a similar thing earlier in the year... I bought an RTX2080ti (& a new psu) but then realised my i7-7700k wasn’t really good enough & was causing a bottleneck. Ended up buying a new CPU & motherboard.. plus another PSU. I also upgraded my ram to 64gb, but MSFS doesn’t use anywhere near that amount. You’ll be fine with 32Gb Regards Steve Intel I9-13900K - Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX - 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz - Asus RTX4090 ROG STRIX 24GB 3x 43” Panasonic 4k TVs - Corsair RMx 1200W PSU - 2 x 2TB M.2, 2 x 4TB SATA III and 1 x 4TB M.2 SSDs. Pico 4 VR Headset - Honeycomb Alpha Yoke - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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