beroun Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hi, Could someone please explain the logistics of how to add side views to aircraft panels, so that these can be seen by using shift/numerical number on keyboard. After many years of using FS9, adjusting panels, adding gauges and similar, I never paid much attention how to incorporate side views. I downloaded some fantastic aircraft with side views B787, Bonanza and the side views of these are very realistic with rotating engines and similar. I look at these using Shift and numbers on the numerical pad on keyboard. Looking at the panel.cfg of these, there are references to different fixed windows .bmp files but these are not there! Also the VIEW sections are different. I have one aircraft where I would like to add the side views, even got .bmp files for these but any attempts I made in panel.cfg, referring to these do not seem to work. Any help appreciated. Many thanks Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's all explained in the Panels and Gauges SDK, available here: http://files.fsnordic.net/?download=1623 Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hi, You mention that some of the side views display rotating props, etc. If you mean animated moving props, then those are not side view bmp files at all, but instead you are seeing the Virtual Cockpit. If a plane has a VC, then when you use the keyboard to look to the side the VC is displayed instead. So no BMP files are required. When there is no VC, then only static side views can be added, using Fixed Window sections. And I see no mention of side views in the SDK document? Basically, to add fixed windows using BMP files, three things need to be added to the panel.cfg file. We'll use an L-188 Electra panel as an example, since I just added them to that plane (it doesn't have a VC, so any view to the side gave a blank outside view). First the example BMP we are going to add is called FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp. It is used to look to the forward right, using the 9 key on the numeric keyboard with the Numlock on, or Shift 9 with it off. The first thing we need to add is to the [Window Titles] section. The ... means I've omitted some existing lines. Note that this is the name of the BMP file. [Window Titles] ... Fixed Window31=FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp Then we need to add something to the [VIEWS] section. [VIEWS] ... VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=31 This is the name of the view, not the name of the BMP file. In this case they are the same. Finally, we need to add a section that specifies the BMP file used for this view. This is added after all [WindowXX] sections but before the [VCockpitXX] sections. Since this plane has no VC there may be no VCockpit sections, but there might be. [Fixed Window31] file=FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=31 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 Once we add all that, when you use the forward right view, the FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp file will be displayed over the outside view. To give an idea how to add all the views, I will paste the entire sections of this panel.cfg file. I have omitted all the WindowXX and VCockpitXX sections. [Window Titles] Window00=Main Panel Window01=Overhead Panel Window02=GPS Window03=Minipanel Window04=Fuel Planner Window05=Pilot Notepad Window06=FE Notepad Fixed Window31=FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp Fixed Window32=RIGHT.bmp Fixed Window33=REAR_RIGHT.BMP Fixed Window34=REAR.BMP Fixed Window35=REAR_LEFT.bmp Fixed Window36=LEFT.bmp Fixed Window37=FORWARD_LEFT.bmp Fixed Window38=FORWARD_UP.bmp [VIEWS] VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,250,30,MINIPANEL VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.750 //use 0.750 for wide screen outside view VIEW_FORWARD_EYE=0.000, 0.000, 0.000 VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=10.000, 0.000, 0.000 VIEW_FORWARD_RIGHT_WINDOWS=31 VIEW_RIGHT_WINDOWS=32 VIEW_REAR_RIGHT_WINDOWS=33 VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=34 VIEW_REAR_LEFT_WINDOWS=35 VIEW_LEFT_WINDOWS=36 VIEW_FORWARD_LEFT_WINDOWS=37 VIEW_FORWARD_UP_WINDOWS=38 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window31] file=FORWARD_RIGHT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=31 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window32] file=RIGHT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=32 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window33] file=REAR_RIGHT.bmp size_mm=1024 window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=33 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window34] file=REAR.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=34 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window35] file=REAR_LEFT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=35 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window36] file=LEFT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=36 render_3d_window=1 nomenu=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window37] file=FORWARD_LEFT.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=37 render_3d_window=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 //-------------------------------------------------------- [Fixed Window38] file=FORWARD_UP.bmp window_size_ratio=1.000 position=7 visible=0 ident=38 render_3d_window=1 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 Hope this helps, Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Wow, gents MANY THANKS!!! this is fantastic help. MUCH! appreciated. Cheers Peter And Tom, also MANY thanks for all your previous help! You were always there! Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Hi, have one more question on side views. Have downloaded Open ski AB340 and tried to install new side views. These show OK (followed Tom's instruction) but it also shows some default side views behind these. How can I get rid of the default side views? Any help appreciated. Thanks Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 You would have to remove the default VC using a hex editor, and then there would be no VC view. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Many thanks Tom, I am not familiar with hex editor but will do some research. If not too much trouble a suitable link to the download would be appreciated. Also some basic knowhow how to use it would be great. Thanks again, Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Hi Peter, Project Opensky usually have VC and NoVC versions of all their aircraft and there's a NoVC version of the A340 here: http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/syb.cgi?section=jets&file=Opensky_A343-LANCHILE.zip Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Thanks Tim I have downloaded and tested this aircraft but it has default B747-400 panel, so all is as per the default. I also Implanted this aircraft to my existing A340 aircraft folder, adjusting aircraft.cfg and all but the side views still show. I think it has something to do with the panel I have there:panel.a340sdwv. Make sense sdwv apparently means side views. I like this panel and have adjusted it with some other gauges, so will probably stick to it and avoid looking sideways:) Cheers Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Hi Peter, you're on the right track with merging these two A340's, but all you need to do is replace the 'novc' A340's panel folder with the 'side views' panel folder from your existing A340. Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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