tmckinnin Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 like many real world airlines like emirates or BA etc. what software do they use for their flight simulators to train their pilots do they use FSX OR P3D OR X PLANE SOFTWARE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 None of the above. They use private software that train on systems and procedures and the scenery and eye candy are basic. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Craig Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 None of the above. Full flight simulator (FFS) is a term used by national (civil) aviation authorities (NAA) for a high technical level of flight simulator. Such authorities include the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in the United States and the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). There are currently four levels of full flight simulator, levels A - D, level D being the highest standard (wikipedia) FFS would have proprietary software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 What level comes before A, because that's what I'm on? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmckinnin Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 why they use FFS why explain why cant they or not allowed to use FSX OR P3D OR XPALNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The professional version of P3D, with the correct & approved hardware is certified & used by Simulator manufactures such as Redbird & Frasca. Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 A big part of the reason FSX and other entertainment sims (Aerofly, MS Flight) aren't used is the developer doesn't want to invest in the certification process (FAA, EASA regulations etc) or deal with any liability issues. Without certification, the sims can't be used in formal training programs, however, pilots might use them on the side. P3D and X-Plane can be certified for formal training, and are used as part of a certified system, a combination of software and hardware. CAE is one of the major simulator manufacturers used by airlines. http://www.cae.com Redbird is another sim company mentioned above. http://simulators.redbirdflight.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnuss Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 why they use FFS why explain why cant they or not allowed to use FSX OR P3D OR XPALNE FSX, X-Plane, etc. cannot support the physical equipment used in the airline sims, not even in the procedures trainer, let alone the full motion (Level D) sims. Nor do they have the response time needed for all that. But the motion part alone, is extremely complex. There are large bundles of large cables running from each of the sim motion boxes back into whatever computer room they have. A PC could hardly handle the engine starting portion, let alone anything else. It's just a very different, much, MUCH more complex setup. You're actually in a cockpit that almost exactly like the real thing, not a picture on a screen, and it has all, that is ALL the switches, knobs, displays, buttons, ash trays, seat controls, windows, etc. that are in the real thing. It literally is a duplicate of the cockpit of the real aircraft, in both look and feel and seating, though the instructor console in the rear of the cockpit is a bit different, but that's not visible when you're flying the sim. If you've not worked on large, complex computers it may be difficult to understand how much I/O (Input/Output) control is needed, how many different pieces to the software AND hardware that must integrate together seamlessly, and all the other things that are waaayyy beyond even the heftiest desktop machine. That doesn't count power, hydraulic control and a lot more. I've only scratched the surface here, even of just listing the things needed that a PC can't handle. Larry N. As Skylab would say: Remember: Aviation is NOT an exact Science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Would love to own a FFS. I wonder what maintenance costs? I know there is a place some where in Vegas where you can pay to use one. It's pretty pricy though. I think it was like $1000 per hour. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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