GridNorth Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I am having difficulty landing and I think it may have some thing to do with how the spoilers are deployed/not deployed. There are several commands in FSUIPC but I do not know which is the correct one to assign to a button: Spoiler Dec, Spoiler Inc, Spoiler Arm Off, Spoiler Arm On, Spoiler Arm Set, Spoiler Arm Toggle, Spoilers Off, Spoilers On, Spoilers Set, Spoilers Toggle. The first two are self explanatory but the other commands seem to be variations of the same thing. My understanding is that arming the spoilers should not deploy them and that this should be automatic on touchdown. Trouble is I'm too busy concentrating to change the view to see what is happening. Is there any indication in the cockpit that the spoilers are armed and subsequently successfully deployed? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabe5454 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 You should have a visual on the throttle panel shift + (number) if they are or not. Use shift+/ to arm. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I normally check my speed brake/spoiler armed indicator to make sure I have them armed for landing. After landing and pulling off the runway, you can jump to an outside view to see them raised. They need to be manually lowered. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 They will also automatically in down if you advance the throttle after touchdown. (to enable going around after touchdown if needed.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Milk? --- was supposed to come out as: will [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Milk? --- was supposed to come out as: will Thumbs and phones don't mix well!;) Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 After reading this I went and opened the 320. If it was a default aircraft.....bet it was an A-321!;) Just for clarification. Nit picky, I know! Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 You're wrong there. When armed they extend as soon as you are on the ground. So when you arm them while parked, they extend. Try in flight. And partially extending works too. Not sure if it will be visible in the outside model of the a321 default, but the partial loss of lift effect sure is there. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted July 31, 2016 Author Share Posted July 31, 2016 My default Airbus 321 does not show a gauge for the speed brake as you suggest mrzippy, it displays the aircraft Tail number in that position. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 My default Airbus 321 does not show a gauge for the speed brake as you suggest mrzippy, it displays the aircraft Tail number in that position. Alan Well.....what would you rather see? A non-changing tail number or a working speed brake/auto-spoiler warning?? [Window00] file_1024=airbus_a321_panel_background.bmp file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp size_mm=1024 position=7 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505 gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357 gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628 gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346 gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609 gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506 gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214 gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214 gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214 gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345 gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745 gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745 gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745 gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745 gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745 gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745 gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745 gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745 gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745 gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745 gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19 [VCockpit01] size_mm=1024,1024 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$A321_1 background_color=0,0,0 gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354 gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135 gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282 gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282 gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104 gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103 gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79 gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80 gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296 gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479 gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105 gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110 gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282 gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285 gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25 The changes made to both the 2D and VC are marked in RED. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariking777 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I'd suggest you download the Project Airbus A320 family package, which includes quite a good A321, probably the best freeware one. I'm a huge Boeing fan, but I fly A321s from the package quite often, simply because they nailed it to the head. About the Spoilers - in the Project Airbus planes, the spoilers are armed automatically before takeoff and landing, without you needing to press anything. On takeoff, as soon as you advance the throttle to T/O thrust, the spoilers will be armed automatically. They will also be armed automatically immediately upon lowering the gear, before landing. http://rs258.pbsrc.com/albums/hh250/henrysb/avatar_11769.gif~c200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Default A321 - speed brake armed: Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Retracted: -- Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Armed: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egsjr1956 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 You're wrong there. When armed they extend as soon as you are on the ground. So when you arm them while parked, they extend. Try in flight. And partially extending works too. Not sure if it will be visible in the outside model of the a321 default, but the partial loss of lift effect sure is there. I stand corrected. I deleted my post. Thank you for pointing that out. GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K CPU@4.2GHz Memory: 16.00GB Ram Resolution: 3840 x 2160, 30Hz Seiki 39†Monitor Operating System: Windows 10 Home Edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Default A321 - speed brake armed: [ATTACH=CONFIG]192018[/ATTACH] Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Retracted: [ATTACH=CONFIG]192019[/ATTACH] -- Default A321 speed brake indication in 2D panel -- Armed: [ATTACH=CONFIG]192020[/ATTACH] All good stuff il, but I think GridNorth is anti-screen button clicker and wants to use his keyboard only. I could be wrong! Thought I was wrong, once, but I was wrong!;) Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hi Egsjr, I too thought for a long time the fsx spoilers didn't fully work and only did retract/arm/extend. Only found out recently they are more sophisticated. Was a nice surprise.:) Glad I could help. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 mrzippy: You are correct, to date I have managed to eliminate most of the mouse usage. Easy in a Cesna but a little more difficult in an Airbus 321 :-)How do you get that Flight Control panel to display? That looks like a useful panel. Am I right in thinking that "armed" does not mean"deployed"? I know how to deploy the spoilers but my understanding was that if they are armed they should deploy automatically on touch down. Mine do not appear to do so. The issue I have is that the PAPI lights are all white but I get warnings that I am too low but I overshoot the runway. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 By pressing the FCTL button underneath the MFD using a mouse click. Armed does not mean deployed! Armed means deployment when mainmounts touch the runway. Don't look for spoilers to be up until you are on the runway unless you manually deploy them earlier. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GridNorth Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Thank, you're a star. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enko Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Well.....what would you rather see? A non-changing tail number or a working speed brake/auto-spoiler warning?? [Window00] file_1024=airbus_a321_panel_background.bmp file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp size_mm=1024 position=7 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505 gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357 gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628 gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346 gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609 gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506 gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214 gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214 gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214 gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345 gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745 gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745 gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745 gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745 gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745 gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745 gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745 gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745 gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745 gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745 gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19 [VCockpit01] size_mm=1024,1024 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$A321_1 background_color=0,0,0 gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354 gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135 gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282 gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282 gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104 gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103 gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79 gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80 gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296 gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479 gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105 gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110 gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282 gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285 gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25 The changes made to both the 2D and VC are marked in RED. Ok, I know this is old, I also know the risk I take getting roasted royally by Mr Z :) But to get this working would be worth the battering. Have tried everything I can tink of, checked the 737 folders are in the right place etc, but no cigar. My changes are below.. Please guide me oh great one! [Window00] file_1024=airbus_a321_panel_background.bmp file_1024_night=airbus_a321_panel_background_night.bmp size_mm=1024 position=7 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL gauge00=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 676,505 gauge01=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 24,357 gauge02=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 651,628 gauge03=Airbus_A321!autopilot, 677,346 gauge04=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 517,609 gauge05=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 581,506 gauge06=Airbus_A321!pfd, 23,521,215,214 gauge07=Airbus_A321!mfd, 264,521,215,214 gauge08=Airbus_A321!ecams, 788,521,215,214 gauge09=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 470,345 gauge26=SimIcons1024!ECU Icon, 790, 745 gauge27=SimIcons1024!Overhead Icon, 812, 745 gauge28=SimIcons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 834, 745 gauge29=SimIcons1024!ATC Icon, 856, 745 gauge30=SimIcons1024!Map Icon, 878, 745 gauge31=SimIcons1024!GPS Icon, 900, 745 gauge32=SimIcons1024!Radio Icon, 922, 745 gauge33=SimIcons1024!Other Controls Icon, 944, 745 gauge34=SimIcons1024!Engine Instruments Icon, 966, 745 gauge35=SimIcons1024!Clock Icon, 988, 745 gauge36=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 258,429,67,19 [VCockpit01] size_mm=1024,1024 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$A321_1 background_color=0,0,0 gauge01=Airbus_A321!popup_overhead, 1,1,761,354 gauge02=Airbus_A321!hsi_backup, 859,735,114,135 gauge03=Airbus_A321!ecams2, 2,356,283,282 gauge04=Airbus_A321!ecams, 2,639,283,282 gauge05=Airbus_A321!attitude_backup, 858,518,105,104 gauge06=Airbus_A321!annunciator_panel_1, 574,412,438,103 gauge07=Airbus_A321!ias_backup, 4,941,79,79 gauge08=Airbus_A321!altimeter_backup, 91,940,79,80 gauge09=Airbus_A321!popup_radio, 765,114,246,296 gauge10=Airbus_A321!popup_ecu, 576,517,279,479 gauge11=Airbus_A321!popup_clock, 859,626,105,105 gauge12=Airbus_A321!pfd_mfd_select_panel, 765,1,207,110 gauge13=Airbus_A321!pfd, 287,357,283,282 gauge14=Airbus_A321!mfd, 287,640,285,285 gauge15=B737_800!annunciator_speed_brake_armed, 574,360,89,25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downwind66 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) I just did mine, I had to copy the B737_800 cabinet from the Boeing panel.cfg to the Airbus A321 panel.cfg and then all worked! I installed the annunciator in the section below, and that allowed me to keep my aircraft reg where it was before. I used coordinates 258,475,67,19 and all worked well! Rick :cool: Edited June 24, 2019 by Downwind66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Rick, ya beat me to it. Just copy and add the 737_800 .cab file to your panel folder. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downwind66 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I had to, Enko thought you would "Roast him" and I kinda felt bad for him! Rick :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I had to, Enko thought you would "Roast him" and I kinda felt bad for him! Rick :cool: Odd, haven't "roasted" anyone in a while? I usually get my roasting done over at the "other" site where I moderate with an iron boot!;) Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enko Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Nice thanks guys :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enko Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Worked a treat, thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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