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Have you been on their Facebook page for updates? Their last post about it was on August 19 with many responses to questions up to about 7 weeks ago. It's apparently still in the works but they haven't released it yet. Maybe they know something we do not on a possible next MSFS update revolving around DX12? Who knows. But if they get this far in development you know it IS coming! https://www.facebook.com/Carenado/photos/pcb.4236002939809821/4235997519810363

Well that's just it. My CPU usage was only at ~20%. Additionally, the GPU is only running at 36%. The GPU usage normally runs between 60-70% in usage and the CPU rarely above 25% anywhere. That's why I keep that GFE tool overlay up on regular occasion to monitor what the hardware is doing. I didn't have HWMonitor running at the time to monitor % use on the eight cores but wished I had. Again, I have never experienced this until that one time yesterday in 48 flying cycles in a wide variety of locations and traffic/weather. I just finished another one hour VFR flight around the Orlando area with lots of traffic and live weather with cumulus clouds. If it happens again I will document with incremental screenshots. The common denominator here is the continued linear decline in FPS performance no matter where you are in the flight. It's clearly not my hardware and something going on with the sim.

No sir. Just air like my CPU and I have a very high air flow case (see sig). This never happened in my racing sim games or the classic GPU benchmark test Heaven. In addition, I have a custom aggressive fan curve to ramp up fan RPM to 70% at 60C and 75% at 65C. It has never exceeded 62C. I've tried both Nvidia's own Precision X tool as well as MSI's Afterburner so I know it's not an EVGA or Nvidia issue. Or was. Just finished yet another flight from ATL to MIA and zero issues. All numbers normal. I think it was just some fluke in MSFS being at the wrong place at the wrong time when loading the sim and something acted as a parasite to the hardware. I'm glad however I'm not the only one to experience this. PS: Just noticed you are in/from Florala. Destin/FWB native here!

I had this exact same thing happen to me yesterday on a CJ4 flight from Wichita KS to Atlanta GA and I couldn't figure out what was going on. It started out the usual solid locked 60fps and stayed that way for about a half hour. Then while at cruising altitude at FL410 I noticed the FPS start averaging 50s which never happens, especially in clear weather and up that high. Then about every 15 minutes after the average FPS dropped between 5-10FPS. By the time I was on final approach my FPS had dipped to the 20s and it was definitely noticeable. It scared the heck out of me as I thought my new GPU was failing and throttling back. However GeForce Experience (GFE) monitoring showing no temp, fan RPM, or voltage fluctuations. At first. Then by the last leg of the flight I happened to notice the GPU running very cool at low 40s Celsius and only consuming about 130W of power, about 100W less than normal under load. Something is going on either with the sim or my GPU. I shut down for a few hours then tried the same flight going back to Wichita. The issue did not repeat and the weather and traffic were identical. Same with a later night flight in an entirely different region of the country. A very strange occurrence that to me, a newcomer to MSFS of about a month and a half in and ~60 hours, had never seen (and hope to never see again). I don't know what your GPU is but if you have an Nvidia try using GFE and use a card monitoring overlay for performance. I took a physical photo of my experience while frames were in the 30s and note low GPU temp and wattage (GFR monitoring overlay is in the lower right of the screen). The FPS here should be banging 60FPS and GPU temp in upper 50s Celsius and wattage draw 230s. Clearly something was going on with the sim not fully utilizing my GPU at that time.

Oh it's beyond that these days. We will not have normal GPU stock (let alone pricing) well into next year if not into 2023 if not ever (and that depends on how mining goes for cryptocurrency on top of it all). We are nearly a year into the release of the 5th generation 4K capable gaming consoles (Playstation 5, Xbox Series X) and they are impossible to find. There's a major global chip shortage affecting supply of everything from GPUs to refrigerators to automobiles. My suggestion would be to get on NewEgg and join their Shuffle program for a new GPU at retail price. That's how I got my 3080 Ti. Basically it's a lottery to win the privilege of buying a card. It thwarts the bots which take over all the announced new inventory release alerts people sign up for. Your best bet will be to lock in on a combo action and sell what you don't need (video card + memory, video card + PSU, video card plus monitor). My EVGA card was tied with an EVGA 850W G+ power supply that I sold. I feel for you as I myself was off FSX and here for many years due to various life changes. Then MSFS happened. Then hardware shortages happened (mostly around video cards). Speaking of hardware, you having that Dell will definitely need to address the issue of upgrading your power supply to take on a more updated and powerful GPU. And that means a bigger case which can handle a full ATX spec PSU for the PCIe cables needed for today's more powerful GPUs. This Dell forum thread explains it pretty well: https://www.dell.com/community/Inspiron-Desktops/Dell-Inspiron-3671-psu-upgrade/td-p/7832114

1) What are you coming from in a monitor? 2) What are your game quality settings? I can tell you that all other things being equal, if you are running at 1080p settings currently and happy with 30fps at whatever your sim quality settings are, expect a significant FPS loss at the same settings with this monitor. You are asking your GPU to push nearly 2.5x more pixels moving up to that from a 1920x1080p monitor (from 2.073M pixels to 4.953M pixels). That said, that's a great deal!

Plainsman and tiger1962 sum it up about as best as possible. I waited a full year before building a rig and getting MSFS. I got the disc version just for nostalgia sake but wished I'd have just gotten the Steam version. The only real issue I ever had was with the Microsoft Store which requires occasional "housekeeping" on things. Other than that, after now 6 weeks with MSFS, I cannot be happier. I'm still playing around with a lot of settings around controls as I'm far from as pleased with the yoke response (read: over response in pitch specifically) in it than in all previous FS versions. I've played around with the response curves and gotten the feel better, but it will take an update or a serious mod in a .cfg file to get it where it was like FSX and before. I had a full year to do my homework and research other people's problems (thank you early adopters!) and I took full advantage of it. I don't know about others, but I've always put FS in the default installation directory on the Windows drive with nothing else on that drive. I have a different drive for Steam games entirely and all other files like in-game screenshots and videos. Whether this helps reduce crashes and glitches is up for debate, but I do know that people who try and get fancy with trying to point where their MSFS installation goes have reported a lot of issues here. I love the near aftermarket complex capabilities of the default aircraft, specifically the CJ4 and Longitude and TBM 730. You have full FMS capability with aircraft that have one, and even better, can import your own custom flight plan with SimBrief or Skyvector. That's something we never had capability of doing with anything default in FSX! I have a handful of scenery upgrades on airports but have not been confident enough to buy a payware aftermarket complex aircraft yet like the CRJ700. Same with a payware aftermarket weather program like Rex. Every update seems to break something with those. All that said, it's the weekend, and time to fire up and go flying!

Okay I just fired up and unchecked my 60FPS setting in the Nvidia control panel and fired up the sim and locked 1440p at 60FPS with V-sync on in the game setting (full screen of course). I used the default Naples discovery flight to compare before and after. The game FPS lock created screen tears when I panned around the cockpit. I closed the game and launched the Nvidia control panel again and checked the 60FPS lock and went back and re-launched MSFS and unchecked V-sync. Panning returned to the normal no screen tears. BUT it did hold the same 60FPS. It's apparent we are dealing with more gremlin hardware issues where what works for some does not work for others and vice versa. What drew my attention to the original comment was that he didn't even see an option to FPS limit in the Nvidia control panel. I think it's important we all list our hardware to help others as well going through these continued MSFS "learning curves" revolving settings.

V-sync in MSFS must be OFF for a non G-sync supported monitor. Limit the FPS only in the Nvidia control panel. It overrides any in-game FPS setting (of any game, not just MSFS): 3D Settings -> Manage 3D Settings -> Max Frame Rate -> Program Settings Save it as a new custom game setting profile under MSFS. I've been doing this for years since FSX with a non G-sync 1440p monitor. More info in this MSFS forum thread: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/for-those-of-you-locking-frames-at-30-try-this-out/387563

I could tell they dumbed down the graphics even with my brief few days of having it before WU6 hit. I'm VERY disappointed that Asobo didn't keep our PC version higher quality for we enthusiasts with PCs. To lower the bar just for XB1 just sucks, but I know MS is more about $ales than what a niche group of users like we simmers think.

Also you may have to sign out of your Microsoft account, reboot and re-sign in. I have to do that on occasion to see any updates show up to download. Finally, if all else fails and you still don't see an update, try this: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sent-to-microsoft-store-while-launching-msfs/406577/32 ^^Apparently Microsoft's gaming services sees duplicate entries for whatever reason and you have to remove both and then reboot and just one will install. This I also have to do on occasion. FYI I do have the DVD version.

Geoff I see you posted on the MSFS forums. That's a good thing as they do not read these comments from the scuttlebutt I got. That said, I waited a full year before getting it (and buying the DVD boxed copy) just last month. It was a pain, mostly revolving around getting the MS store to work right on updates. I'm so sorry MSFS is not working out for you, but I urge you to take a step back and regroup not in two years but just in a few months. It's apparent you have something else going on hardware related that clearly has not been identified. I'm a month in the sim now with about 45 hours and still fine tuning things and far from FSX-like pleased around even the basics like flight control feel. Best wishes!

I also learned to fly before glass (and before computers were a household item) back in the mid-late 1980s. Radio navigation and reading paper maps (VORs, NDBs) is a lot more meaningful to me since technology took over and the G1000 system in GA aircraft. In both sim and real world flying, sure the glass life which includes tablets for nav is easier than folding paper around based on where you are, but there's just something more intimate in flying going old school skill dial instrument and physical charts and ground reference navigation. That said, there are still plenty of FBO rental fleets out there with traditional steam gauges simply because of economics. If I were a student starting today, I'd much rather learn old school hardware first. To me, it just helps train your eyes for instrument scan better than our eyes already stuck in daily life toils of smart phone screens and computer screens where TMI is packed in a small space. __________________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K @ 5.0GHz | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | Super Flower Leadex III 850W | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

Yep. I've had this sim three weeks now this weekend. I just completed a CJ4 flight which logs a total of 32.4 hours. I've spent about 25% of those hours JUST getting the sim to launch which has involved all these MANDATORY updates. What a hot mess. I will say that most of us are getting real good at being the space monkey experimenters and an advisor to others on how how to get the sim going after every MANDATORY update. I waited a full year before jumping on board and we're still here. Unbelieveable. When it runs, it runs great. When Asobo updates, grab a cup of coffee...or a few beers...depending on what time of day you plan on spending an hour fixing things. All that said, if you want your thoughts read by that team, post your experiences on the official MSFS forum. They may not respond to your rant, but they sure read it.

Long story short, yes you can run it but you will have to turn down either resolution like say to 720p and keep medium quality settings or keep your native resolution (I'm assuming 1080p) and then turn down quality settings. This is also assuming you target 30fps. I will say however that running MSFS unlike all previous versions shows that the video card is more important than the CPU. I run the GeForce Experience performance monitor overlay and on average the CPU vs. GPU usage percentage is 25/75 respectively. My settings are pretty much maxed out running a single 2560x1440 resolution (QHD) monitor. The bottom line is that nothing has changed since previous versions just as with every MFS release, everyone's hardware combo will be different and require unique customization in the sim for optimal performance. If you do get it running I'd recommend posting your results as there are a lot of people out there who would be interested, especially considering video cards are still nearly impossible to find at retail price unless you are very lucky. __________________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K @ 5.0GHz | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | Super Flower Leadex III 850W | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

I had another lockout yesterday which is very frustrating. By lockout, I mean trying to launch the sim either from the desktop, via store, or through my EVGA video card's GeForce Experience program and it just goes to the store in a repeat cycle. I found out this is a known problem that dates back to last year. From the MSFS forum: 1) In windows search bar type powershell. 2) Right click on powershell and select run as administrator. 3) Copy/paste this in powershell (no parenthesis) and press enter: "get-appxpackage Microsoft.GamingServices | remove-AppxPackage -allusers" 4) Copy/paste to this in powershell (no parenthesis): "start ms-windows-store://pdp/?productid=9MWPM2CQNLHN" 6) Press enter, close the powershell window, and launch the sim. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/simulator-doesnt-start-anymore-at-all/314155/492 Apparently there's a bug with the MS Store seeing duplicate entries with the Gaming Services program. And it's been this way since late 2020 and still not fixed. I've only had this sim installed for 2 weeks and it has been a frustrating experience overall, mostly just revolving around trying to get it to launch! For the record I have the DVD version. __________________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K @ 5.0GHz | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | Super Flower Leadex III 850W | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

Okay after multiple attempts just this afternoon of everything mentioned here, I finally got it to start updating when there was no update available showing. On this last time, I shut down and rebooted, but didn't go to the store. Instead, I launched the Xbox app first (the new updated one) and then launched the game from the Windows start menu. From there the game said mandatory update and closed and opened the store as with previous tries to no avail of an update. I was able to see the MSFS icon in the update section now and it started automatically. I tried the different methods in order listed and none worked, but this one did for me to get the update to show up in the store. For the record and information for others: 1) Sim is installed in default C location along with Windows and nothing else on that SSD (see sig). 2) There are no add-ons, I am on default scenery and aircraft (and downloaded WU6 too). 3) I have the boxed Premium Deluxe DVD version (Disc 1 always in the external drive). 4) My BIOS clock is in my location's time zone (some have reported that to be factor). Finally, I tested the autopilot in the Bonanza and Citation Longitude and it still functions in those aircraft. In my limited time I see nothing broken with this mandatory update (separate from World Update VI). __________________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K @ 5.0GHz | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | Super Flower Leadex III 850W | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

I've only had the sim for a week now but I already had that happen the other day. Try signing out of your Microsoft account, shut down, reboot, and then sign back in. Several have reported that problem both here and elsewhere for almost as long as the sim was originally released last year. __________________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K @ 5.0GHz | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 | Super Flower Leadex III 850W | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

Maybe he was referring to the microjet being in the 1983 Bond movie "Octopussy" would be my guess. Otherwise it was always an air show favorite when I saw one. ______________________________________________________________________________________ i7 11700K | ASUS Z590-Plus TUF Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.BLACK (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | 2x16GB G.SKILL TridentZ 4000 | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 (Grizzly Aeronaut paste) | Super Flower Leadex III 850W Gold | SilverStone Redline SST-RL06WS-PRO | Samsung 980 2TB M.2 NVMe (OS + MSFS) | Crucial MX500 2TB x2 | AOC 32" 1440p | Logitech Flight Yoke + throttle quadrant + CH Pro Pedals

Well there is a third option for purchase: a boxed retail copy. I did that only for nostalgia sake with a small hard cover manual and other little trinkets. The down side is that it takes 10 hours to load from an external USB 3.0 drive (the original version has 10 DVDs, my version has 8 DVDs). It may go faster if you have a PC with a built in DVD drive. If you go that route however, be advised you will still have to download all the updates since whatever DVD version you bought which will rewrite a lot of files. I have full support from MS for it. And yes, when I log in to MS Store to load the sim, it shows up as my Xbox account which I had to create for using it (I do not own an Xbox and never have and never will for a console - Playstation gamer here). You can find DVD copies for sale on aviation store sites (I used MyPilotStore). All that said, it cannot be emphasized enough you will need serious PC hardware to run it like you see in 4K videos on Youtube.

Also I blame my cat for the "L" in hardware in the subject line...she won't leave my keyboard alone.

I'm planning my build and since selling my CH Products Flight Yoke and rudder pedals a couple years ago, I figured those assets would be the last thing that would be hard to find (unlike the RTX 3090 I'm on pre-alert lists for from several vendors). Well, I want the new Honeycomb Alpha yoke paired up with the Logitech throttle quadrant and Thrustmaster TFRP rudder pedals. Apparently MSFS's release has caused an unprecedented demand in flight controller hardware. I didn't see that coming! There are more expensive options out there in stock starting with $600 Redbird RD1 rudder pedals which I'll just go ahead and get - high quality and more realistic than offerings from CH and Thrustmaster for a lot less. But it is going to be a long wait for the Honeycomb yoke and Thrustmaster throttle quadrant according to Sporty's Pilot Shop where I get my real world flight gear.

Not so much at 1080p or even 1440p, but if you plan on building a new 4K gaming rig *or* you have an older generation/lower tier in a newer build, you need to wait for the new RTX 3000 series GPUs. The first review of an ASUS TUF version of the RTX 3080. It completely wrecks the RTX 2080 Super at 4K, increasing FPS to 43 from 29. That is a massive historically unheard of 48% FPS boost in FS sim history just from the GPU. Even at 1080p and 1440p, the difference between say a GTX 1080 and RTX 3080 is significant. Kudos to Guru3D also for having MSFS as a new game (yes, it is a sim) benchmark in their hardware performance reviews! https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_rtx_3080_tuf_gaming_review,20.html

My guess is it's the same reason you can't find boxed retail copies of PC games in stores anymore like Fry's Electronics, Best Buy, or Target: people don't buy them anymore (in the US market) and Aerosoft just didn't see the market. I saw the PC gaming section of Best Buy and Fry's Electronics and Target slowly dwindle over time in PC game media starting in the late '00s and then disappear entirely by the time the PS4 came out Holiday 2015. In fact the last PC gaming media I bought in any brick and mortar store was at Fry's back in 2011 and FSX because I lost my 2007-bought Gold copy in a move (later found then given to a friend). I am seeing a slow tide recession of console game shelf space in these stores as well over more recent years. I honestly did not expect the Playstation 5 to even come with a Blu-Ray player (but glad one version is). That said, there are still a lot of US consumers out there with slow and unreliable bandwidth internet, the exact reason why Aerosoft is offering the physical media copy for the European markets. To a lot of people 90GB sounds like a lot, but as a PC and PS4 console gamer who is has been used to 40GB+ game downloads for several years now, that's not that big of a deal for what you are getting.

I am still wondering why the FS2020 team chose to not make Atlanta (KATL) one of the highly detailed airports since it is the world's busiest international as well as domestic airport. I mean the list of other detailed airports in the US like Aspen? Really? How many people have ever flown into Aspen or can even put it on a map?