pvarn Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ok, I've settled it for the Lenovo W540. I've done a straight comparison with the same settings file and saved flight (Rio de Janeiro, daytime, clear weather, Learjet, 30 degree banked turn off runway at 80% throttle). Results are: FSX disc: 30-50 FPS FSX:SE 60-80 FPS All of your add-ons and the weather as well as the location where you recorded these frames were EXACTLY the same? -Pv- 2 carrot salad, 10.41 liter bucket, electric doorbell, 17 inch fan, 12X14, 85 Dbm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainso Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 All of your add-ons and the weather as well as the location where you recorded these frames were EXACTLY the same? -Pv- yep, I copied over the settings and saved flight files. The only add-on I had was GEX and UTX Europe, which is why I chose Brazil for this test. UPDATE: doh, I hadn't installed the acceleration pack on the disc version. I've done this now and repeated the test - and updated the results in my previous post. FSX:SE is still noticeably faster, but not as dramatic a difference when compared to FSX without the acceleration pack. Iain AMD Ryzen 5 3600X AMD RADEON RX 5700XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yep you gained the %5 that some people saw. FYI, you can't tell the difference between 50-60 FPS anyway. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcolour Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I have used both and to be honest the steam edition works faster and you have better frame rate i would recommend the steam edition. :pilot:FLY TO LIVE AND LIVE TO FLY :pilot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W33 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 My opinion... I don't like to 'rent' software;) W33 X-Plane 11, P3D. 32GB RAM, i7 8700k, 1080Ti, Oculus Rift, 1TB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptCaveman Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 FSX SE does NOT have to be online to work. Steam offline mode works perfectly well with FSX, with only the multiplayer menu not being available (obviously). And yes I dont particularly like Steam or its practices, however as the data is actually on your system and paid for they cannot legally stop you using it. They can only stop you accessing Steam. As such there are perfectly legal routes you can take to ensure your SE version never stops working due to "Steam" issues. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n4gix Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 My opinion... I don't like to 'rent' software;) W33 Do you not realize that you don't actually "own" any of the software you use. It is only "licensed" for you to use. Ownership is retained by the author(s) and/or companies who pay the author(s). Bill Leaming http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Combat/0054.gif Gauge Programming - 3d Modeling Military Visualizations Flightsim.com Panels & Gauges Forum Moderator Flightsim Rig: Intel Core i7-2600K - 8GB DDR3 1333 - EVGA GTX770 4GB - Win7 64bit Home Premium Development Rig1: Intel Core i7-3770k - 16GB DDR3 - Dual Radeon HD7770 SLI 1GB - Win7 64bit Professional Development Rig2: Intel Core i7-860 - 8GB DDR3 Corsair - GeForce GTS240 1GB - Win7 64bit Home Premium NOTE: Unless explicitly stated in the post, everything written by my hand is MY opinion. I do NOT speak for any company, real or imagined... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchur6 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 No one here understands copyright law and licensing. Under court and law rules, the creator of software (or any idea for that matter) is the owner of that item and has the choice of either selling it and giving up all rights to it (as well as supporting it) or licensing it to you for your personal use and support usually comes with it, but not always. You MUST read the license terms to understand that there is NO guarantee that the item will work! They license it as is, you buy it for a particular purpose but they do no guarantee that this purpose is something they have planned for. That, in simple terms why you license software and not sell it. You are not "renting"anything as you only pay a license fee once. This is the primary reason there are copyguards as you cannot transfer it to anyone becausee you don't "own" it and have no real tangible right to it except as defined in the license. READ IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBean Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Yeah, this is a 2 year old thread that really did not need to be revived. peace, the Bean WWOD---What Would Opa Do? Farewell, my freind (sp) Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alverthein Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I agree with you Bean no matter where you are...LLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloudon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I had both installed and running for a few weeks, then I got rid of my old Deluxe Edition to simplify addon installations. To me, the advantages to using FSX-SE over FSX are: 1. Service Packs plus "Deluxe and/or "Acceleration" or their equivalents are included. 2. Performance of SE is slightly better on modern machines due to some modernization tweaks. 3. FSX-SE is being actively supported and developed by its new dev team and publisher. This implies that future modernizations and enhancements are likely. There are only two disadvantages that I have found: 1. Not all addons will work yet with SE. I have found that this failure can be mostly an installer issue in many cases (but not all cases- VATSIM & most PMDG airplanes, for example), where the installers are hard-coded with the wrong FSX installation path but the addons themselves will work fine if they are correctly installed manually. Based on online info, many addon developers/publishers are working to tweak their products for SE, so this issue will go away over time. 2. You must have Internet connectivity to log into Steam and launch the game, and the Steam offline mode simply does not work for FSX. This is not an issue for me, but could be for some users. EDIT TO ADD: Steam has just announced that the imminent update, now in public beta, will allow FSX:SE to run in OFFLINE Mode, thereby eliminating this FORMER disadvantage. This development also reinforces my "advantage #3" above. :) good summary.....thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 good summary.....thank you. Why are we even discussing this? Steam is the ONLY current source for FSX unless you find the FSX disks in a store or sale. If you don't like the business model `Steam licensing` then you can't license FSX. Tough. X-Plane, Aerofly 2, Flight Sim World, DCS, P3D or something else awaits - But be sure to check their business models because you can't own their sims either... Simple. Move on people, nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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