Scarcity of AI Aircraft

[il88pp]

allen,

did you use the woai installer to install the woai packages into this fsx install? ( doing that will install the woai .bgl files AND the planes needed). You can get the installer at the woai site.

 

Or did you salvage your old. bgl files from a previous install-backup? ( in that case you simply don't have the aircraft installed.)

A .bgl file is just the trafficplan and contains no aircraft.

 

Also, after loading a flight it takes some time for all the the AI to load and appear. 10-20 minutes or so.

Besides, the airports you mentioned are not exactly very large. Check some large airports to see the amount of traffic there.

 

Dont expect every airline to visit every airport. Lufthansa for example might visit london occasionally (not every day), but you most likely will not see Lufthansa visiting Manchester or Bristol.

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Allan,

 

Il88pp wrote some good things to consider here (yes there are a LOT of things to consider!).

 

And yep I do have the patience - back when I was young and foolish I was a Danish Army sniper and used to jump out of perfectly functioning airplanes, then I got out and spent my career in tech support... still foolish! :D

 

Jorgen

[ac103010]

1. Where is FSX installed? C:\

 

2. Your flight plan .bgl files should be under FSX, in Scenery\World\Scenery - are they there? Yes

 

3. Where are your AI aircraft installed? In the WoA installed bgl files

 

4. What Windows version do you have, and is it fully updated, with the C++ and .NET updates that Brian and I mentioned earlier? Win10 64 bit, and yes, all updated

 

5. Where did you install AIFP? C:\

 

Not to worry, if you have the patience we will get it running.

 

Jorgen

 

Edit: Maybe you could also post your FSX.CFG file here.

 

FSX.CFG. Here Goes

 

[OLD MODULES]

FSsound.dll=1

SOARRec.dll=1

[sOUND]

AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000

SOUND=1

SOUND_QUALITY=2

SOUND_LOD=0

UISound=1

AmbientUI=0

PrimaryDevice={DEF00000-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}

VoiceDevice={DEF00002-9C6D-47ED-AAF1-4DDA8F2B5C03}

SOUND_FADER1=0.500000

SOUND_FADER2=0.500000

SOUND_FADER3=0.500000

SOUND_FADER4=0.860000

AmbientUIMusic=FSX03

[Display]

ChangeTime=4.000000

TransitionTime=4.000000

ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64

NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255

NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64

InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0

InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0

InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255

InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128

InfoBrakesEnable=True

InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True

InfoPauseEnable=True

InfoSlewEnable=True

InfoStallEnable=True

InfoOverspeedEnable=True

BLOOM_EFFECTS=0

SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40

UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=28

WideViewAspect=False

[Main]

User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes

SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft

SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles

SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats

SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals

SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc

HideMenuNormal=0

HideMenuFullscreen=0

ProcSpeed=15698

PerfBucket=7

Location=139,0,1728,1033,\\.\DISPLAY1

Maximized=2

[PANELS]

IMAGE_QUALITY=1

QUICKTIPS=1

PANEL_OPACITY=100

PANEL_MASKING=1

PANEL_STRETCHING=1

UNITS_OF_MEASURE=1

DEFAULT_VIEW=1

[Weather]

WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1

MinGustTime=10

MaxGustTime=500

MinGustRampSpeed=1

MaxGustRampSpeed=200

MinVarTime=5

MaxVarTime=50

MinVarRampSpeed=10

MaxVarRampSpeed=75

TurbulenceScale=1.000000

WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com

WeatherServerPort=80

WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0

AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1

DynamicWeather=2

DownloadWindsAloft=0

DisableTurbulence=0

CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=4

DETAILED_CLOUDS=1

CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=7

THERMAL_VISUALS=0

[DISPLAY.Device.Intel® HD Graphics 4600.0]

Mode=1680x1050x16

AntiAlias=1

Anisotropic=1

[CONTROLS]

Controls_Default=Standard

Controls_Current=Standard

KBDAIL=64

KBDELEV=64

KBDRUD=64

[TextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

[TextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

GForce=1,3

FuelPercentage=1,4

[TextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

GForce=2,3

FuelPercentage=2,4

[slewTextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

[slewTextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

[slewTextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

[DynamicHeadMovement]

LonAccelOnHeadLon=-0.020000

LonAccelOnHeadPitch=-0.010000

RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000

YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000

RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000

MaxHeadAngle=5.000000

MaxHeadOffset=0.300000

HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000

[VirtualCopilot]

VirtualCopilotActive=1

[GRAPHICS]

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672

TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024

NUM_LIGHTS=8

AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1

AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1

COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=0

LANDING_LIGHTS=1

AC_SELF_SHADOW=0

EFFECTS_QUALITY=1

GROUND_SHADOWS=0

TEXTURE_QUALITY=3

IMAGE_QUALITY=0

See_Self=1

Text_Scroll=1

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672

D3D10=0

[uSERINTERFACE]

PageID=1

SHOW_MISSION_CAPTIONS=0

PAUSE_ON_LOST_FOCUS=0

PROMPT_ON_EXIT=1

SITUATION=C:\Users\acro1\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\WSSS Threshold

Map_Orientation=2

ShowAllACPaintSchemes=1

SelectAircraftManufacturer=Boeing

SelectAircraftPublisher=All

SelectAircraftType=All

OpenATCOnCreate=0

DisplayFuelAsWeight=0

[ATC]

ShowATCText=1

COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF

COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6

COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B

COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00

COMM_MSG_AI_ATC_COLOR=FFFF7840

AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=1

UsePilotVoice=1

PilotVoice=196608

[PointOfInterestSystem]

CycleSetting=0

[sCENERY]

LENSFLARE=1

DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1

IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=4

[TrafficManager]

AirlineDensity=98

GADensity=15

FreewayDensity=83

ShipsAndFerriesDensity=85

LeisureBoatsDensity=87

IFROnly=0

AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=4

[TERRAIN]

LOD_RADIUS=4.500000

MESH_COMPLEXITY=94

MESH_RESOLUTION=24

TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28

AUTOGEN_DENSITY=2

DETAIL_TEXTURE=1

WATER_EFFECTS=2

[AContain]

ShowLabels=1

ShowUserLabel=0

ShowLabelManufacturer=1

ShowLabelModel=1

ShowLabelTailNumber=1

ShowLabelDistance=1

ShowLabelAltitude=1

ShowLabelAirline=0

ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0

ShowLabelFlightPlan=0

ShowLabelContainerId=0

ShowLabelAirspeed=0

ShowLabelHeading=0

LabelDelay=2000

LabelColor=FF00FF00

[iNTERNATIONAL]

ASLAT=2

ASLON=0

MEASURE=1

[REALISM]

PFactor=0.000000

Torque=0.000000

GyroEffect=0.000000

CrashTolerance=0.000000

General=0.000000

UnlimitedFuel=True

TrueAirspeed=False

AutoCoord=True

RealMixture=False

StressDamage=False

GEffect=False

ManualLights=True

GyroDrift=False

CrashWithDyn=False

CrashDetection=False

AutoTrim=False

AllowEngineDamage=False

[sIM]

SYSCLOCK=1

[sTARTUP]

DEMO=0

SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1

STARTUP_DEMO=

LoadWindow=1

[FACILITIES]

COUNTRY=Singapore

STATE=

CITY=

GTL_BUTTON=1769

[Misc]

Com_Rate=7

[AccelerationPack]

ControlsFirstRun=0

HomePageFirstRun=0

[MAPVIEW_MAP]

SHOW_AIRPORTS=1

SHOW_VORS=1

SHOW_NDBS=1

SHOW_APPROACHES=0

SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0

SHOW_VICTOR=0

SHOW_JET=0

SHOW_AIRSPACE=1

SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1

SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1

SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1

SHOW_DATATAGS=1

SHOW_TERRAIN=1

show_flight_history=1

[FlightPlanMap]

LineWidth=2

SHOW_AIRPORTS=1

SHOW_VORS=1

SHOW_NDBS=1

SHOW_APPROACHES=1

SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1

SHOW_VICTOR=0

SHOW_JET=1

SHOW_AIRSPACE=0

SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1

SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1

SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1

SHOW_DATATAGS=1

SHOW_TERRAIN=1

show_waypoints=1

show_airways=1

show_markers=1

show_volume_boundaries=0

show_ac_twr=1

[Trusted]

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\jb777loader.dll.bbbuaaoleicblktaqraketequrenuqqrubuazeit=1

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\jb777_fmc.dll.nlkhwhkitboizzzacwwitztqlnknqruubnbewnbw=1

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\Cessna.DLL.waciqczhibalibwzazebllzocicrhkeeootlerwb=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\VL Boeing 727-200 Adv\panel.722\dsd_fsx_xml_sound.GAU.elzqhlwlzqrhlharnueqtaqwulthnrkiqwubceqe=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_777_200ER_OP\panel.B777\b777serv.DLL.aiataanikuklkuzokoubhkizqzehlcubnkeeneqi=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_777_200ER_OP\panel.B777\CALLOUT_SOUND.DLL.wenwehzblcbqcrlqrorrentqzrnkhtkizacrnaqu=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_777_200ER_OP\panel.B777\BoeingGeneric.DLL.toeaitcctlbhurbkuhrkrblzinaewuiohabqthkn=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_777_200ER_OP\panel.B777\RCB_Groundhandling5_Sound.DLL.ozwbrtezoaazwqzuuqiiktauohceohlbaaihwohn=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_777_200ER_OP\panel.B777\Boeing777-300.GAU.aauwtklohebuqthbaqwiqbqautbheznuklbozhzw=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\MD-81 SAS\panel\lear_45.GAU.ihabwuthlrrliquelhcnkbreqttnewltnzbottqc=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\MD-81 SAS\panel\mdxxautopilot.GAU.rrneraconltnhoworoktintobzqzilhwlcucabat=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\MD-81 SAS\panel\Cessna208.GAU.hnlerrrcbiwhhlrobcrntiqhrnatraeobtanqzqz=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\MD-81 SAS\panel\757-200.GAU.ewroiiztlircnrinribuotloocucblqiaiqknhtl=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\VL Boeing 727-200\panel.722\dsd_fsx_xml_sound.GAU.elzqhlwlzqrhlharnueqtaqwulthnrkiqwubceqe=0

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_747_400_OP\panel.747\BoeingGeneric.DLL.toeaitcctlbhurbkuhrkrblzinaewuiohabqthkn=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_747_400_OP\panel.747\Magnetic_Compass.DLL.ickqinukhtzquiwzwcibzqnuiknhciwrkhcicrhe=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Boeing_747_400_OP\panel.747\GPWS_Sound.GAU.rbaozeiibkiblabrbloqlwotwezolhqwkonlzclk=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\HG_Radioalt_dig.GAU.bozierbilozatntbiqlknkhbqzqlluqelrehaioe=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\FPDA_A330_Callout.GAU.zciazlonucbwekzitziwthenarwqllcqwwbqaweb=2

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\GAUGES\dsd_xml_sound3.GAU.wlzwntcqaneiocqetquelnwlkbnrwoiaczccnhcr=0

[WeatherMap]

SHOW_AIRPORTS=0

SHOW_VORS=0

SHOW_NDBS=0

SHOW_APPROACHES=0

SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0

SHOW_VICTOR=0

SHOW_JET=0

SHOW_AIRSPACE=0

SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1

SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1

SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1

SHOW_DATATAGS=1

SHOW_TERRAIN=1

[MULTIPLAYER]

condAccoutPassword=0

VoiceVolume=1.720000

 

 

Going to respond to il88pp, now.

 

Thanks. Jopgen

[ac103010]

Hi il88pp.

 

 

 

allen,

did you use the woai installer to install the woai packages into this fsx install? ( doing that will install the woai .bgl files AND the planes needed). You can get the installer at the woai site. Yes, every flightplan instaled using WoAI

 

Or did you salvage your old. bgl files from a previous install-backup? ( in that case you simply don't have the aircraft installed.)

A .bgl file is just the trafficplan and contains no aircraft.

 

No, all freshly downloaded and installed via the installer

 

Also, after loading a flight it takes some time for all the the AI to load and appear. 10-20 minutes or so.

Besides, the airports you mentioned are not exactly very large. Check some large airports to see the amount of traffic there.

 

Yes, I know they're not large but previously they've had a selection of aircraft from airlines known to have used them, They're both tourist destination and so they should have a large number of charter. Plus, they're both Iberia bases and so should have a number of Iberia planes there. When I look at London Heathrow and Singapore, for example, LHR should be bristling with BA aircraft. Although there are a number, nowehere near what I would expect. Same with Singapore. Has a large number of Singapore Airlines aircraft but very few of anything else. And NO BA planes.

 

Also, since deleting and reinstalling AIFP3 I now have only ONE aircraft at Malaga and NONE at Alicante

 

Dont expect every airline to visit every airport. Lufthansa for example might visit london occasionally (not every day), but you most likely will not see Lufthansa visiting Manchester or Bristol.

 

But I WOULD expect Iberia to visit Madrid - it's hub, and, as I said, BA at Heathrow. But I only had 4 Iberia at Madrid.

 

I hope that what I've said makes sense.

 

Allan

[ac103010]

Just checked Gatwick - 2nd largest UK airport. I have ONE solitary aircraft - a Virgin 747. Gatwick is Virgin's base and Ryanair, Easyjet and other budget airlines have bases there, too.

[mrzippy]

What time of day? Sometimes the season will also affect the number of AI aircraft at an airport.

[ac103010]

Mr Zippy, tried it at various times. But we're talking about major hubs. It would be like having no AAA or United at JFK.

[ac103010]

Looked at Dubai. Not an aircraft in sight.

 

 

So I re-installed WOA Emerites and now Dubai is bristling with Emerites aircraft.

 

 

Looks like I might have to re-install all 200 packages :rolleyes: But that's for tomorrow. Need to sleep now.

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Allan, I will quote one of your answers to me:

 

"3. Where are your AI aircraft installed? In the WoA installed bgl files"

 

To repeat: the bgl files are pure traffic files, they do not contain any aircraft. If the AI aircraft are also installed in \Scenery\World\Scenery, where the traffic bgl files go, then the sim cannot see them.

 

With your present FSX.CFG, the AI aircraft will need to be in \SimObjects\Airplanes to be seen. When you reinstalled Emirates, the AI aircraft from that package most likely went there, and now they can be seen.

 

But I also have a couple of questions prompted by your FSX.CFG file.

 

First of all, are you running this on a laptop? The Intel Graphics point to that. What CPU do you have, and do you know if Hyperthreading is on or off in your system's BIOS?

 

Second, where do the [MAPVIEW.MAP], [WeatherMap] and [FlightPlanMap] in the FSX.CFG come from?

 

Also, your [TRUSTED] section seems to indicate that you have a lot of add-ons - which add-ons do you have?

 

Jorgen

[ac103010]

Oh, silly me. Yes, Jorgen, my WOA AI aircraft are all in the simobjects folder so when I reinstalled the Emirates package it went in the same place.

 

I'm not running this on a laptop, but on a PC.

 

As for your other questions I'll have to go back into the cfg file and answer them later.

 

Allan

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Good to hear you are on a PC - can you please post its specifications?

 

There is one thing you should do when you look at the FSX.CFG right away:

 

In the [GRAPHICS] section, add this line:

 

HIGHMEMFIX=1

 

Jorgen

[ac103010]

OK. Will do.

 

I've re-installed almost 30 packages from WOA and now I'm getting a large number of aircraft at all the airports I've previously mentioned. There are still many anomolies but I'm putting this down to WOA. For instance, Gatwick is Virgin's hub (Heathrow has a lot of Virgin slots, too) but I'm getting quite a nnumber of aircraft at Heathrow and NONE at Gatwick.

 

I'll answer all your question, Jorgen, when I get back later.

 

In the meantime, AIFP3 still doesn't function.

 

Allan

[jorgen.s.andersen]

There are several things that could explain this odd behavior with the Virgin aircraft.

 

First of all, the WoAI flight plans are old - ancient, in fact.

 

Second, the parking codes in the airports determine where the AI aircraft park, and if they don't match up with the codes in the individual Virgin aircraft there will be issues.

 

And then there are the flight plans themselves - the plans need to tell the plane to go to Gatwick...

 

When you launch AIFP, then first of all, what version does it say in the very top of the AIFP screen, and second, what simulator does it show as the target version?

 

Jorgen

[longbreak754]

@ Allan...

 

WRT to AIFP...

 

Are you sure that you have installed it correctly and not attempting to run it directly from the .zip file?

If you are attempting to run it it directly from the .zip file it will cause issues..

 

Just for clarification AIFP should be installed as follows:

 

1. Unzip the contents of the .zip file to a temp location. If should create a folder called AIFP**** (whereby *** denotes the version number i.e the latest version will be AIFP3416). This folder will contain a number of files (31 in total) plus a subfolder titled Base Data - this folder will contain 13 files plus another subfolder with 2 files).

 

2. Copy the complete folder 'as is' to a location of your choosing.

 

3. Open the folder and run the program by clicking on the AIFP3.exe. This should run the program and it should create a number of new files (qty 3) and new subfolders (qty 5) in the background and the program display the initial screen.

[ac103010]

Right, going to catch up with the uanswered questions. Will probably need a couple of posts.

 

 

 

First of all, are you running this on a laptop? The Intel Graphics point to that. What CPU do you have, and do you know if Hyperthreading is on or off in your system's BIOS? - In spec later

 

Second, where do the [MAPVIEW.MAP], [WeatherMap] and [FlightPlanMap] in the FSX.CFG come from? - I have absolutely no idea. I didnt deliberately put them in there. I assumed they were part of the initial cfg file

 

Also, your [TRUSTED] section seems to indicate that you have a lot of add-ons - which add-ons do you have? - Yes, I was surprised at the list. Have to check this out and get back to you.

 

Good to hear you are on a PC - can you please post its specifications? - I'll send in in a later post

 

There are several things that could explain this odd behavior with the Virgin aircraft.

 

First of all, the WoAI flight plans are old - ancient, in fact.

 

Second, the parking codes in the airports determine where the AI aircraft park, and if they don't match up with the codes in the individual Virgin aircraft there will be issues.

 

And then there are the flight plans themselves - the plans need to tell the plane to go to Gatwick...

 

From around 2002 I started creating my own flight plans. I also modified airports to increase the amount of parking and, in many cases, to make them correct, which, of course, they aren't in FSX. I used Aerad Airport charts as templates, as closely as possible. Here's one I created:

 

airwales.zip in flightsim.com.

 

Please read the readme file, which will show you the level of my knowledge. It's frustrating, therefore, for me to be having these issues right now.

 

When you launch AIFP, then first of all, what version does it say in the very top of the AIFP screen, and second, what simulator does it show as the target version? - No version shown and Target Version is blank

 

Answers continuing in next post.

 

Allan

[ac103010]

Windows 10 Professional (x64) Version 2009 (build 19042.685)

Install Language: English (United States)

System Locale: English (United Kingdom)

Installed: 07/08/2020 04:29:49

Boot Mode: UEFI (Secure Boot likely not supported by this UEFI)

System Model

Dell Inc. OptiPlex 3020 00

System Service Tag: FSD2202 (support for this PC)

Chassis Serial Number: FSD2202

 

Processor a

3.20 gigahertz Intel Core i5-4570

256 kilobyte primary memory cache

1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache

6144 kilobyte tertiary memory cache

64-bit ready

Multi-core (4 total)

Not hyper-threaded

Main Circuit Board b

Board: Dell Inc. 0VHWTR A01

Serial Number: /FSD2202/CN701633AU00XI/

Bus Clock: 100 megahertz

UEFI: Dell Inc. A19 10/30/2018

Drives

2118.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity

865.35 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

 

HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GHB0N [Optical drive]

 

KINGSTON SA400S37240G [Hard drive] (240.06 GB) -- drive 3, s/n 50026B778294B16D, rev SBFK61K1, SMART Status: Healthy

KINGSTON SA400S37240G [Hard drive] (240.06 GB) -- drive 1, s/n 50026B77833D9AAF, rev 03070103, SMART Status: Healthy

SAMSUNG HD103SI [Hard drive] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0, s/n S1XGJ90Z538037, rev 1AG01118, SMART Status: Healthy

WDC WD6400AAKS-65Z7B0 [Hard drive] (640.13 GB) -- drive 2, s/n WD-WCASYF138925, rev 01.03B01, SMART Status: Healthy

Memory Modules c,d

16304 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

 

Slot 'DIMM1' has 8192 MB (serial number 0390FB0310EB)

Slot 'DIMM2' has 8192 MB (serial number 0390EF0310EE)

 

 

Allan

[ac103010]

Also, your [TRUSTED] section seems to indicate that you have a lot of add-ons - which add-ons do you have?

 

 

FollowMe.exe.

FSUIPC4.dll.

FollowMe.dll.

jb777loader.dll

jb777_fmc.dll

 

The other addons are packages downloaded from rikoooo.com. It's obvioulsy the way they install them. I had no idea. The gauges, however, I can only assume thy came rom the same source

 

 

Another airline flight plans was Britannia, but, for some reason, it's missing from flightsim.com. It's one I put together from Cardiff Wales Airport "Mayfly" list.

 

Jorgen, I think I've covered everything. If not, please let me know.

 

Allan

[ac103010]

And back to Brian.

 

I followed your instructions to the letter but when I tried to run it, it doesn't work. Still get the original error messages:

 

Invalid Control, etc

Unhandled Exception.....

 

The latter comes up every time I try to do some bulk checking.

 

It also asks, at some point, which sim it is, but has no place to tell it.

 

Whenever I try to carry out a bulk operation I get "no traffic files found/selected"

 

 

Allan

[jorgen.s.andersen]

There is something totally wrong somewhere here, because at the top of the AIFP screen there should definitely be version information, and the target version should be there.

 

I need to think a bit about this.

 

Jorgen

 

Edit: did you BTW delete the old AIFP before you installed the new one?

Edited January 1, 2021 by jorgen.s.andersen

[ac103010]

Happy New Year, everyone.

 

Yes, Jorgen, I did. I checked to see if I had any other versions installed, too.

 

Allan

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Allan, is it possible for you to post a screenshot here or somewhere?

 

If you can do that, then start AIFP and take a shot of the screen you see...

 

And a belated Happy New Year to all!!

 

Jorgen

[il88pp]

does your aifp look loke this:

http://stuff4fs.com/open.asp?Folder=AIFP&JS=TRUE

 

also read this:

http://stuff4fs.com/newpage.asp?Folder=Applications/AIFP&Function=status&JS=True

[ac103010]

I don't know whether this works, but here goes.

 

[jorgen.s.andersen]

It worked - but yes, definitely something wrong!

 

Check this thread at AVSIM:

 

https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/not-able-to-choose-target-fs-version-aifp-fsx-se.436772/

 

Jorgen

[ac103010]

Jorgen, in that article something was said that struck a chord. A question was asked if FSX was installed in one folder and later moved. This is what I did.

 

I origibnally installed it in the default installation folder, in Program Files, etc. And then, because I was told that it will be better in C:\ I moved it. Again, I was told that it was fine just to copy it across. Which I did. Could this have any relevance?

 

Allan