Installing FSX deluxe edition

[JMG]

Am trying to install FSX deluxe edition on my new Windows 10 PC. Was previously installed on my Windows 7 PC and worked well. Although the boxes were ticked, no shortcut was created on the desktop and the program did not start automatically. I created a shortcut to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe". The program now starts with main screen and giving messages that it is generating scenery files, etc. The main screen then disappears and nothing else happens. Can anyone suggest a solution as it is driving me crazy

 

JMG

[mrzippy]

Main screen??? Is this the "Splash" screen that is shown first or do you mean the "Free Flight" Screen? When you say it disappears, could it just be minimizing? Have you installed SP1 and SP2 yet?

[jorgen.s.andersen]

JMG, if you - heaven forbid - sometime will need to un- and re-install FSX on the new system, then please please please do not install it to the default location, but to something like C:\FSX.

 

The reason is that UAC in Win 10 is much stricter than Win 7 regarding access rights for files in the default location. I am not saying this is the reason for your present issue, but just in case you'll need to reinstall then please remember this.

 

Jorgen

[CRJ_simpilot]

Actually, the reason is due to M$ emulating the programs folder for so-called "security."

 

So as mentioned, install to the root of C:\

 

 

Install as Admin and for all users.

 

Good luck with 10 though... As soon as a major update comes along, so long.

[jorgen.s.andersen]

When I lived in the Philippines, I had FSX installed under first Win 8, updated and updated without problems, Then I upgraded to Win 8.1, still no issues with the updates. Then updated to Win 10, still no issues.

 

Then I moved to Germany in May of 2015 without my desktop computer, and only got a new desktop in October of that year. I had my Win 8 disks with me, installed that, upgraded to first 8.1 and then 10, updated Win 10 and installed FSX.

 

So this has now been running like that for almost 3 years, and I have been through updates large and small, including the "Creator's Edition". I have never had ONE issue with FSX in all that time, and since I got P3D in February, no issues with that one either.

 

The Windows Update bashing is just like the discussion about global warming, a bunch of religious mumbo-jumbo - it is simply NOT TRUE. If Windows Updates were really a problem, I would have seen it. Instead, I take the view that is the system that experiences an issue that has an underlying problem of some sort.

 

I shall gladly post my system specs and what I do regarding Windows Updates (settings, procedures etc.) if required. And I'll get off my soap-box now.

 

Jorgen

[JMG]

Thanks for getting back so quickly. What I mean is the Splash Screen. It appears along with messages then the screen goes blank. Haven't installed SP1 or SP2 yet. Assume these are service packs? Will this make a difference?

 

JMG

[JMG]

Thanks Jorgen. I already have uninstalled and re-installed to try to correct the error. I'll keep in mind what you say and reinstall to C:\FSX

 

JMG

[JMG]

Where do I get SP1 & SP2

 

JMG

[CRJ_simpilot]

When I lived in the Philippines, I had FSX installed under first Win 8, updated and updated without problems, Then I upgraded to Win 8.1, still no issues with the updates. Then updated to Win 10, still no issues.

 

Then I moved to Germany in May of 2015 without my desktop computer, and only got a new desktop in October of that year. I had my Win 8 disks with me, installed that, upgraded to first 8.1 and then 10, updated Win 10 and installed FSX.

 

So this has now been running like that for almost 3 years, and I have been through updates large and small, including the "Creator's Edition". I have never had ONE issue with FSX in all that time, and since I got P3D in February, no issues with that one either.

 

The Windows Update bashing is just like the discussion about global warming, a bunch of religious mumbo-jumbo - it is simply NOT TRUE. If Windows Updates were really a problem, I would have seen it. Instead, I take the view that is the system that experiences an issue that has an underlying problem of some sort.

 

I shall gladly post my system specs and what I do regarding Windows Updates (settings, procedures etc.) if required. And I'll get off my soap-box now.

 

Jorgen

 

http://bfy.tw/JAln

[jorgen.s.andersen]

And your point?

 

Logic, basic, individual-served weapon: IF something is wrong with Windows Updates, it will show on EVERY system, including mine. It doesn't.

 

Logical conclusion: there is SOMETHING ELSEâ„¢ wrong on the systems that report the error.

 

Go problem-hunting instead of Windows-bashing. It's not God's Will or somebody else's fault, it's the system administrator's fault.

 

Jorgen

[zswobbie1]

At last, common sense prevails! Jorgen, I agree with you whole heartly!

Window 10 works, perfectly for my 4 versions of FS2004, FSX, P3D, Flightgear & CFS2 &3.

I've tried them all.

 

There are far too many one these forums who consider themselves 'oracles' as far as passing on information, often misleading & false.

 

As we all know, or should, Windows 10 is optimised for newer PC hardware. Putting Windows 7, that is optimised for 8-10 year old hardware, onto a new PC? Common sense tells you that you will not be not getting anywhere the results that you should get!

[jorgen.s.andersen]

Colonel Harry S. Truman of the Missouri Army National Guard (better known as President of the United States 1945-1953) had a sign on his desk. It said, in all its simplicity: The Buck Stops Here.

 

Every system administrator ought to have a similar sign taped to their foreheads.

 

So what do I do to prevent issues?

 

First of all: minimize what is on your system, also known as the KISS rule (Keep It Simple, Stupid). In Windows 10 that means uninstalling all those little unneeded apps that are installed when the OS is installed, only keep what you want and need. You cannot uninstall them all (example: Cortana), but then you can disable them - Google is your friend.

 

Second: close your system up. Set all your settings for maximum privacy - it is YOUR system, not Microsoft's beta testing system. A nice little freeware program, called O&O 10 Shutup, will help you.

 

Third: Antivirus and Malware. I use AVG and Malwarebytes, the paid versions. Both are also available as freeware with less functionality. Scan daily!

 

Fourth: Set Windows Update to only restart your system when you say so, never leave it on automatic restart as it comes.

 

For system cleanup purposes I use 2 programs, both in their freeware versions: Ccleaner and Eusing Free Registry Cleanup. I use those after Windows Update, but after the update I actually use the function Free up disk space in the Windows control panel first, then I run Ccleaner to clean up both disk space and registry, followed by the Eusing Registry Cleanup.

 

From time to time I also go into C:\Program Files, C:\Program Files(x86) and C:\Program Data just to see what is there. If I see a folder that looks like it does not belong there, I Google the folder name to see what it does and whether it should be removed.

 

And finally: I never use Internet Explorer or Edge. I use Google Chrome for most websites, and Firefox for the rest (only a few).

 

Just some tips and tricks that work for me -

 

Jorgen

Edited July 30, 2018 by jorgen.s.andersen

[il88pp]

Here are the service packs. (I found then by typing into google: service pack 1 fsx )

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/1950/microsoft-flight-simulator-x-service-pack-1/

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/2796/flight-simulator-x-service-pack-2/

[CRJ_simpilot]

The mentality of one's understanding of common sense is in the eye of the beholder.

 

You can't teach common sense, you're born with it and it evolves with wisdom. They don't give you a masters in common sense theory.

 

I think in addition to IQ and EQ tests there should be a common sense test. But that may be a little hard to do because how does one weigh common sense? I guess it could start with: Would you eat a Tide pod for a challenge? Do you think your professor knows more than you? Is pot the best thing ever despite it containing a mild form of THC? Who is the Secretary of Defense? Okay, went a little too far on that one, but for heavens sake, all Americans should know that. LOL! Long live the voter, the voter is dead

 

 

 

[jorgen.s.andersen]

I absolutely agree with you on common sense.

 

However, logic is something else, it can be taught, and it has a nasty habit of suddenly biting your rear end without mercy.

 

BTW, a very good reference for OOM errors.

 

Jorgen

[il88pp]

Common sense is helping this guy to install fsx. As that is what he asked.

Leave your personal issues at the door. Don't bring them into threads.

[lesh]

http://bfy.tw/JAln

 

Of course you can find people online claiming that Win 10 and its updates have "destroyed" their systems. It's the same with any OS - no one starts a forum topic entitled "Just thought I'd mention that I have no problems with Windows 10". Even tech websites are guilty of posting misleading information. I read a well-respected tech blog which recently said "don't install update KBxxxxxx (I forget its exact number) as it will cause system freezes and BSODs" - I'd already installed it without any problems. Like the other Win 10 users here, I've been using it almost since it was released (fully updated, minus drivers) and have yet to have any significant problems - more than can be said for my old Win 7 system. Most problems attributed to Win 10 updates turn out to be related to something else entirely when properly analysed. I don't doubt that some people (out of the hundreds of millions of unaffected users of Win 10) have problems after updates but, as Jorgenen said, it can't be because of a fundamental problem with the update or we'd all suffer and, clearly, we don't. There must be an almost infinite number of possible PC hardware and software combinations (I can guarantee that my system is unique) and with the number of systems using Win 10, it's almost inevitable that some of them will occasionally have issues. Even if you could find thousands of complaints on the Internet, that would still be a tiny fraction of 1% of the installed userbase. It's like saying that a particular product doesn't work for one person in 10,000 so there must be something basically wrong with the product. Don't believe all that you read, especially online!

[CRJ_simpilot]

Don't believe everything I read on the Internet? Please, this isn't conjecture, this isn't debating whether a plane will take off on a conveyor belt or not. I have read post after post on computer help forums and read post after post on Facebook pages of people having update issues with Ten. It may not happen to you, but it seems like it's happened to many, many people and this is FACT. Truth be told, M$' QC department is severally lacking and in fact they are looking now at changing the way updates are deployed based on user activity or some other creative over thought process. What they should do is just have a "common sense" ON/OFF button for updates. DUH! And at least allow one to pick and chose what update to use. As noted, some updates may not affect others like they do for you, etc. So give the user a choice in the matter and allow one to just install the criticals.

 

I can't believe an OS is that broken that every Tuesday a new slew of updates are rolled out. That is as bad as my Comcrap cable TV box updating every night. WHY???? WTF are they updating and why every friggin night?

 

IMO the more you have to update something, the risk of failure is exponential. And my cable box has messed up before due to it. Looking at it from a mathematical standpoint, the common denominator here are all of the complaints all over the Internet in social networking sites and computer help forums of updates creating havoc. I had a giant list of these issues. I'll have to see if it's on my other computer, but every time someone over at Anandtech raised an issue having to do with an update I just shook my head.

 

Updates are fine, but when they start breaking rather than fixing you really have to wonder, "is this crap really worth the effort?"

[CRJ_simpilot]

I absolutely agree with you on common sense.

 

However, logic is something else, it can be taught, and it has a nasty habit of suddenly biting your rear end without mercy.

 

BTW, a very good reference for OOM errors.

 

Jorgen

 

Logic can be taught, but how it's applied is a whole other matter. One could have the greatest logic of them all, only to fail miserably when common sense wasn't used.

 

Here's an example: Logic dictates that when you use a hammer you're likely to bang your finger. Common sense tells you to hold the hammer with two hands! :D LMAO!

[mrzippy]

Where do I get SP1 & SP2

 

JMG

SP2 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8986

 

SP1 https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/1950/microsoft-flight-simulator-x-service-pack-1/

Edited July 30, 2018 by mrzippy

[lesh]

As noted, some updates may not affect others like they do for you, etc. So give the user a choice in the matter and allow one to just install the criticals.

 

Firstly, you'd only know if it affects you after you've installed it. Secondly, you can already opt to ONLY have security and critical updates and reject drivers (which cause most of the problems). Finally, without any actual evidence, other than what you've read online, how do you know that all the complaints are correct? Just because it's on the Internet doesn't necessarily mean that it's true (many Wikipedia entries have proven this). Some people have agendas and Microsoft is an easy target.

 

There are now well over half a billion installations of Windows 10 worldwide so even a hundred thousand people complaining of having issues would represent less than 0.02% - almost too small to be significant. I'm the unofficial IT man for all of my friends and family (and it's a big family) and most use Windows 10. It's a very small sample size in the overall scheme of things but none of them have had any problems which can be directly attributed to Windows updates. We know that you don't like Windows 10 but as you have no actual hands-on experience of using it, you're relying totally on what you read about it. If you follow many of the "Windows 10 trashed my system" threads through to their final conclusions, there are a surprising number of solutions that have nothing to do with Windows 10 updates. Don't bash it until you've tried it.

[CRJ_simpilot]

Don't bash it until you've tried it.

 

You sound like a pot head trying too get me to smoke the weed.

 

Truth be told, my Bro has a Win 10 computer and it has acted up. I don't care what you say. I have seen for the last freaking time many, many posts on people getting hosed with Windows updates.

 

I too am the "official" tech head and sole IT pro with my family and I have stopped their computers from automatically installing that spying update madness crap. The very fact it comes with a keylogger should raise eyebrows. No, it's not about whether you can turn it off or not. And do you really think that sucker is off? I bet I can throw 10 in VMware and monitor the network traffic and see all kinds of garbage. Since Europe in their infinite wisdom invoked GDPR, I'm willing to bet they go after 10 next. Already went after Google, but I think that's more or less a cheap money grab, despite Google's crap. Don't be evil HA!

[drobson]

Hopefully, the OP has gotten the info he needs, which means this thread is done!