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    Hi there,

    The other day I downloaded, and have been using the Simple AI Program by Garrett Hardesty, but I need some help. If someone is willing to help me ? I keep getting duplicate Flights at least 1 other flight to the Isle Of Man (Ronaldsway) and one different AI Aircraft flight destination, Dublin Airport (EIDW) that I have not created myself, with the DC-3 Dakota in the KLM Livery. They are not in the .BGL Traffic File that was created for me, as I deleted that and still got the Dublin Flight and Isle Of Man Flights. I am not sure why, and which other .BGL file they will be in ? The Aircraft I am using is the Default FS2004 DC-3 Dakota in "Kestrel" and "KLM" liveries. Here is the text from the 3 Files I have created using the Simple AI Program, before they were compiled with the program "TTools" to make a .BGL File.

    Aircraft File :-

    AC#9,010,"Douglas DC-3 Paint8"
    AC#10,010,"Douglas DC-3 Paint9"

    Airports File :-

    EGGP,N53* 19.77',W2* 50.77',79
    EGNS,N54* 4.76',W4* 37.25',52
    EHAM,N52* 18.47',E4* 45.84',-2

    Flightplans File :-

    AC#9,G-KLM,1%,24Hr,VFR,12:00:00,16:30:09,020,R,0500,EHAM, 17:00:00,21:30:09,020,R,501,EGGP
    AC#10,G-IOM,1%,24Hr,VFR,12:30:00,20:29:37,020,R,0550,EGNS, 16:30:00,00:29:37,020,R,551,EGGP

    Could someone on this Forum tell me, what I need to change in the text from those Files ? and what text I should put in it's place. To ensure that I only have one flight a day there and back. From Liverpool to Ronaldsway Airport (Isle Of Man) with the "Kestrel" Liveried DC-3 Dakota, and only one flight a day there and back from Liverpool to Schipol Airport (Amsterdam), with the "KLM" liveried DC-3 Dakota. I would really appreciate it if someone could help me. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/ Those pictures from the Website Link I provide there, are from what I am seeing in the Freeware FS2004 utilities programs I have "Traffic View Board" and "Traffic Toolbox". Also the Justflight Payware British Airport Addon Packs I have, add static Airline Aircraft to at least two Airports I have gone to in FS2004, Liverpool and Manchester. At Liverpool there are at least two non flying static Airliners one being a Britannia Airline Commercial Jet and a Cargo Channel Islands Commercial Jet. And at Manchester, an static Monarch Airlines Jet and an Airtours Airlines Jet. However I would like to remove them from FS2004, one reason being two of those Airlines, don't operate anymore, also the Monarch Airlines Plane is in the old Yellow and Black livery, and they don't fly. Which folder in FS2004, will those static Aircraft files be in ? So that I can remove the Aircraft in question from FS2004 ? I am not sure you see, any help someone could give me would be much appreciated. Best Wishes and Regards From Eddie Winch

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    I don't use that programme, but the text doesn't change from TTools.

    Aircraft 9 takes off at 1200 (all times GMT) and gets there at 1630 (actually reports in with a landing intention from around 14 miles away) and leaves again at 1700, which sounds like a very short time on the ground.

    Aircraft 10 takes off at 1230 and arrives at 2029, eight hours of flying? Long but I guess a DC3 is not super fast, though it must have very large fuel tanks. Takes off at 1630 and flies back, which means it takes off for the return flight before it arrives? Or it waits 20 hours and takes off at 1630 the next day, getting there at 0030 the day after?

    Make the time on the ground an hour for plane 9, and change the take off time for plane 10 for the return flight from 1630 to 2129. If that's what you want.

    If that doesn't work then use TTools and dump that Simple AI programme

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    Many thanks for your reply Roger it's much appreciated I will alter the Flightplans accordingly. Are those errors you have pointed out, what's caused the additional flights to be created in FS2004 ? And if so which .BGL file will they be in ? As even when I deleted my TTOOLS created .BGL Traffic File, the additional flights remained in FS2004 unfortunately.
    Last edited by eddywinch82; 08-22-2016 at 05:47 PM.

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    I tried the Simple AI program and could not make it work--I could not enter the AI a/c name correctly and got error messages each time I tried...
    Its maker should make that entry pf the name simpler and easy.
    It does have possibilties and it is a pity it has that flaw.

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    Hi Roger, I have deleted the Simple AI program. and have downloaded and now using AI Flightplan Utilities and AI Flight Creator instead. It also displays the Journey in the game in the KLM DC-3 Dakota as taking 8 hours, to Ronaldsway Airport in the Isle Of Man which is clearly incorrect, Ronaldsway is closer to Liverpool Airport than Schipol. Which is strange as the Journey from the same Airport Liverpool, to Amsterdam Schipol Airport is calculated as taking 3 Hours which is more plausable. The EGNS code for Ronaldsway Airport is correct, so does that mean that the coordinates for Ronaldsway Airport are incorrect in the Airports.Txt file ? It would not take a DC-3 Dakota at cruise speed 8 Hours to get to the Isle of Man from Liverpool ! Any ideas you could give me would be much appreciated. Best Regards Eddie Winch.

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    AC#9,180,"Douglas DC-3 Paint8"
    AC#10,180,"Douglas DC-3 Paint9"


    EGGP,N53* 19.77',W2* 50.77',79
    EGNS,N54* 4.76',W4* 37.25',52
    EHAM,N52* 18.47',E4* 45.84',-2


    AC#9,PH-KLM,1%,24Hr,IFR,12:00:00,13:49:35,060,F,0500,EHAM,14:59:49,16:49:24,070,F,0501,EGGP
    AC#10,G-AIOM,1%,24Hr,IFR,12:04:55,12:45:19,060,F,0550,EGNS,14:50:00,15:30:24,070,F,0551,EGGP


    Try this.

    Also have you got the program TrafficViewBoard, with that you can follow the AI the full journey plus listen to the ATC as well?
    You require FSUIPC to be installed though, tvb_v21.zip
    Last edited by ColR1948; 08-23-2016 at 01:59 AM.

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    A generic observation. I am not familiar with Simple AI but many such utilities, for numerous games, designed in the days of XP either do not function or do not function properly in Vista and later.

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    Course they do.

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    Thankyou ColR1948 for your help, I will use the amended text you have provided. To compile a new Traffic file (.BGL) in TTools. And let you know if it works, from your penultimate post to me. I really appreciate you sorting that out for me. I do have Traffic View Board, I really enjoy it, especially being in the AI Aircraft when it's in the landing pattern at an Airport, and landing when other Airliners are about to take off.
    Last edited by eddywinch82; 08-23-2016 at 07:56 AM.

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    Hi eddy, You will notice I changed the aircraft speed as well to 180, I kept your flight number but also altered the aircraft reg, hope you don't mind, you can change it back if you wish of course.

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