btbenoit Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Hello Gang. I've installed 3 WOAI ai packages. United, Delta, and American which all fly into my local KLFT airport (in real life). However in the sim I only see United AI aircraft. Is there a way to make the AI more plentiful at Lafayette_v10? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Is your slider for airliners set higher when you open the sim? Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leuen Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 You might check the flightplans or install AI Traffic Mover and search for KLFT. At least they will show the times at which the aircraft should be there. Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Default KLFT has only three small gates. You need to add gates using ADE or AFCAD or search in this site for KLFT FS2004 and download the enhanced airport. There are few downloads available. Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 Default KLFT has only three small gates. You need to add gates using ADE or AFCAD or search in this site for KLFT FS2004 and download the enhanced airport. There are few downloads available. I have Lafayette_v10 installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 AC#1001,N625AE,26%,WEEK,IFR,0/00:47:59,@0/01:44:35,240,F,3389,KSJT,0/11:13:04,@0/12:14:35,230,F,3448,KDFW,0/12:47:49,@0/13:57:57,300,F,3213,KAMA,0/14:29:56,@0/15:38:51,290,F,3213,KDFW,0/16:14:32,@0/16:58:50,200,F,3182,KLAW,0/17:29:35,@0/18:13:53,190,F,3182,KDFW,0/18:49:34,@0/19:22:48,140,F,3263,KACT,0/19:54:47,@0/20:37:51,130,F,3263,KDFW,0/21:14:46,@0/22:49:31,350,F,3383,KGPT,0/23:17:49,@1/00:59:56,360,F,3383,KDFW,1/01:33:10,@1/02:24:51,210,F,3106,KCLL,1/11:49:38,@1/12:45:00,200,F,2922,KDFW,1/13:18:13,@1/14:52:58,350,F,2740,KGPT,1/15:24:58,@1/17:04:38,360,F,2740,KDFW,1/17:37:51,@1/18:52:55,320,F,2773,KLRD,1/19:24:54,@1/20:49:48,330,F,2773,KDFW,1/21:23:02,@1/22:28:15,270,F,3406,KMLU,1/22:57:46,@2/00:12:50,280,F,3406,KDFW,2/00:54:40,@2/01:59:53,270,F,3198,KAEX,2/10:58:50,@2/12:02:49,280,F,3103,KDFW,2/12:39:44,@2/14:23:05,370,F,3372,KPNS,2/14:53:51,@2/16:49:31,360,F,3372,KDFW,2/17:28:53,@2/19:43:00,360,F,2782,KRAP,2/20:19:55,@2/22:43:53,370,F,2782,KDFW,2/23:19:34,@3/00:24:47,300,F,3121,KAMA,3/00:53:05,@3/01:59:32,290,F,3121,KDFW,3/02:33:59,@3/03:47:49,310,F,3308,KSGF,3/14:17:49,@3/15:43:57,320,F,2795,KDFW,3/16:33:10,@3/17:48:13,310,F,2802,KSGF,3/18:18:59,@3/19:38:58,320,F,2802,KDFW,3/20:14:39,@3/22:02:56,370,F,2748,KPNS,3/22:34:55,@4/00:33:03,360,F,2748,KDFW,4/01:09:58,@4/03:13:00,370,F,3444,KTYS,4/12:27:57,@4/14:44:32,360,F,2909,KDFW,4/15:18:59,@4/15:54:40,140,F,2799,KACT,4/16:22:58,@4/17:04:48,130,F,2799,KDFW,4/17:38:02,@4/18:53:05,320,F,2773,KLRD,4/19:23:51,@4/20:49:59,330,F,2773,KDFW,4/21:23:12,@4/22:29:39,270,F,3406,KMLU,4/22:57:57,@5/00:13:00,280,F,3406,KDFW,5/00:45:00,@5/01:48:59,270,F,3310,KMLU,5/11:29:46,@5/12:39:54,280,F,3245,KDFW,5/13:13:08,@5/14:14:39,260,F,3353,KLBB,5/14:42:57,@5/15:48:10,270,F,3353,KDFW,5/17:08:09,@5/19:19:48,360,F,2936,MMAS,5/19:57:57,@5/22:28:04,370,F,2936,KDFW,5/23:04:59,@6/00:08:58,270,F,2757,KXNA,6/00:53:16,@6/02:04:38,280,F,2757,KDFW,6/11:42:57,@6/12:48:10,280,F,2817,KMAF,6/13:18:56,@6/14:33:59,290,F,2817,KDFW,6/15:09:40,@6/16:03:49,230,F,2938,KSHV,6/16:34:34,@6/17:29:56,240,F,2938,KDFW,6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT,6/19:58:50,@6/21:18:49,320,F,3430,KDFW,6/21:49:34,@6/22:44:56,240,F,3327,KSJT,6/23:13:15,@0/00:14:46,230,F,3327,KDFW Here is American Airlines ai flight plan that is on my pc. Can someone explain what 6/19:28:04,330,F,3430 on this line means KDFW,6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT,6/19:58:50,@6/21:18:49,320,F,3430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 KDFW,6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT,6/19:58:50,@6/21:18:49,320,F,3430 leaves KDFW on the 6th at 18:08 arrives at KLFT on the 6th at 19:28 and flies at 33000ft Flight no 3430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leuen Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 BUT, at GMT times, not local! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 KDFW,6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT,6/19:58:50,@6/21:18:49,320,F,3430 leaves KDFW on the 6th at 18:08 arrives at KLFT on the 6th at 19:28 and flies at 33000ft Flight no 3430 So how would I edit this to everyday and multiple times a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaid Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) So how would I edit this to everyday and multiple times a day? In the base component of that plan: AC#1001,N625AE,26%,WEEK,IFR, (or whatever...) change WEEK to 24Hr That does daily. If the plan is of very short duration then you can do 1Hr, 2Hr, 4Hr, 6, 8 12 or 24. Then remove the day numbers from each leg so that 6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT, becomes 18:08:05,@19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT, *** Note that the single line of plan about which you asked is cut up in the wrong places. Each leg of a plan ends with a PoA. They don't start with a PoD. All plans are circular and it's an oddity of the syntax that the initial departure point is thus written at the very end of the plan. *** I think that the repeat period has to be greater than the duration of the entire plan so if you have a 3hr 15min plan then 4Hr will be the best you can use. If you then want hourly departures I think you'll have to use the same plan several times over and stagger the departure times. *** If you download Lee Swordy's Traffic Tools (I've found it at Avsim and Flyawaysimulation but haven't found it here), the zip has a very good readme.htm that explains structure and modifications for each part of a complete plan. It's comprehensive and quite readable. Start with short one-liners and within a couple of days you'll be compiling entire airline schedules... D Edited August 11, 2022 by defaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaid Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Having written the foregoing, TBH I think Peter's suggestion above concerning the number and size of parking spots may give better results for less effort... It's worth using ADE or AfCAD to check what parking is available. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 *** I think that the repeat period has to be greater than the duration of the entire plan so if you have a 3hr 15min plan then 4Hr will be the best you can use. If you then want hourly departures I think you'll have to use the same plan several times over and stagger the departure times. *** This is how the flight plan was written in the WOAI American Eagle package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Having written the foregoing, TBH I think Peter's suggestion above concerning the number and size of parking spots may give better results for less effort... It's worth using ADE or AfCAD to check what parking is available. D I do have Continental ERJ-175 aircraft landing and taking off as well as the default Boeing 737's. That is another question I have. How can I remove some of the default aircraft from landing and taking off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 In the base component of that plan: AC#1001,N625AE,26%,WEEK,IFR, (or whatever...) change WEEK to 24Hr That does daily. If the plan is of very short duration then you can do 1Hr, 2Hr, 4Hr, 6, 8 12 or 24. Then remove the day numbers from each leg so that 6/18:08:05,@6/19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT, becomes 18:08:05,@19:28:04,330,F,3430,KLFT, *** Note that the single line of plan about which you asked is cut up in the wrong places. Each leg of a plan ends with a PoA. They don't start with a PoD. All plans are circular and it's an oddity of the syntax that the initial departure point is thus written at the very end of the plan. *** I think that the repeat period has to be greater than the duration of the entire plan so if you have a 3hr 15min plan then 4Hr will be the best you can use. If you then want hourly departures I think you'll have to use the same plan several times over and stagger the departure times. *** If you download Lee Swordy's Traffic Tools (I've found it at Avsim and Flyawaysimulation but haven't found it here), the zip has a very good readme.htm that explains structure and modifications for each part of a complete plan. It's comprehensive and quite readable. Start with short one-liners and within a couple of days you'll be compiling entire airline schedules... D Maybe I copied it wrong, Does this look better KLFT,6/19:58:50,@6/21:18:49,320,F,3430,KDFW,6/21:49:34,@6/22:44:56,240,F,3327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 AC#1001,N625AE,26%,4HR,IFR,KLFT,19:58:50,21:18:49,320,F,3430,KDFW,21:49:34,/22:44:56,240,F,3327 Like This? Do I just add this line somewhere if the Flight plan text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Again, the airports go at the *end of the sections, not at the beginning, and the initial departure point is at the end of the line. They have to be in the proper order. You also missed removing a / character. AC#1001,N625AE,26%,4HR,IFR,19:58:50,21:18:49,320,F,3430,KDFW,21:49:34,22:44:56,240,F,3327,KLFT and yes, this can be added as a new line in the AI traffic file. This plane will depart KLFT at 58 minutes after the hour every 4 hours. Normally you would not use a starting time like 19:58 with a 4 hour plan, but instead something like 00:58, 01:58, 02:58 or 03:58. But I believe TTools will change that for you. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) Again, the airports go at the *end of the sections, not at the beginning, and the initial departure point is at the end of the line. They have to be in the proper order. You also missed removing a / character. AC#1001,N625AE,26%,4HR,IFR,19:58:50,21:18:49,320,F,3430,KDFW,21:49:34,22:44:56,240,F,3327,KLFT and yes, this can be added as a new line in the AI traffic file. This plane will depart KLFT at 58 minutes after the hour every 4 hours. Normally you would not use a starting time like 19:58 with a 4 hour plan, but instead something like 00:58, 01:58, 02:58 or 03:58. But I believe TTools will change that for you. Will TTools change it when it compiles the files? and do I need to delete the original flight plan? Edited August 11, 2022 by btbenoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaid Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Will TTools change it when it compiles the files? and do I need to delete the original flight plan? Traffic Tools will change the existing .bgl file. I'd suggest that you make a copy of it before starting on any changes, and put the copy in a safe folder so that you can revert if things go wrong. You'll need to decompile the existing bgl (WOAI_KLFT_Traffic.bgl or whatever it's called). You can do that with Traffic Tools. It will create three .txt files. To begin, it will be simplest if you use a plane that's already in use in the traffic bgl. That way all you have to do is add in a new plan. EGNX cargo plans decompiled: Add your new plan here: It's worth making a backup before recompiling: When you recompile, Traffic Tools will overwrite the existing bgl, in the same way as word or excel or whatever overwrites what you started with when you save. The original individual plans will all still be part of it, but with your new plan added on. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaid Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Here's a tip for creating new plans. To save the frustration of trying to spot a typo when the three text files failed to recomple, make your new flightplan leg by leg. Remove the line-breaks just before saving and recompiling. When each leg is on its own line, it's much easier to spot the errors before you try to recompile. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Awesome, Thanks for the help. Hopefully my AI aircraft will start showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 How can I adjust the default ai aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaid Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 How can I adjust the default ai aircraft? Hi. Three methods come to mind. First... If you don't want Orbit and Soar and Landmark to show up at all, or any other stock, including GA, then find: ../fs2004/scenery/world/scenery/traffic030528.bgl and disable it by changing the .bgl extension. *** Second method... Move the aircraft that you dislike out of the ../fs2004/aircraft/ folder and those particular models just won't show up at all. *** Third... Rather more complex and involves modifying the stock traffic030528.bgl with Traffic Tools. Decide which aircraft you want gone from KLFT. This is made a little more difficult by the fact that MS did not give them recognisable names. So their B737s were just named Paint1, Paint 2, Paint 3 et c. Decompile traffic030528.bgl and in the resulting traffic030528_flightplans.txt, identify the relevant plan. Change the % value at the start of the plan to 100% It's this section: AC#1001,N625AE,26%,WEEK,IFR, Recompile. In FS9, move the Aircraft Percentage slider (or whatever it's called) to 99% *** Method 1 years ago is my preference. I did it years ago and installed some proper aircraft and proper AI traffic files in its place. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 So I added these to my American Eagle flight plans and still no AI aircraft AC#1001,N625AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N803AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N806AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N807AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N810AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N811AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N813AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N814AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N816AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N817AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N850AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N851AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N853AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N854AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT AC#1004,N855AE,26%,4Hr,IFR,03:58:50,05:45:09,320,F,3430,KDFW,05:49:31,07:35:50,240,F,3327,KLFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 Here is what my AFCAD looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbenoit Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 Dumd question. Does the AFCAD File go into Add on scenery>scenery or add on scenery>***airport***>scenery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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