xtc Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 FS9 is still my go-to, like a comfortable favorite pair of shoes. I have a system totally capable of running MSFS but I'm waiting for all the teething problems to go away as it seems to be a very, very long beta, so no rush there. FSX-SE runs great with all the sliders to the right and I do the odd VFR flying in that, tried P3DV5 but it still doesn't look that great unless I want to buy more payware scenery so it's uninstalled. FS9 is something I can throw everything at and still run a solid 60 FPS so it wins! In fact right now in the process of craming my Canadian skies with all of Darren Belanger's small operator packages to go with the early 2000's WOAI stuff. The fun never stops with this old beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBOJSA Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The only sim i use. nebojsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightowl56 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 PENS FOREVER!!! Mr Daniels. Might I impose on you for a favor? I need the default MD8x aircraft file for FS9. IF you would be willing to send it to me please do so at nightowl56@comcast.net. Thank you. RT. Johnstown, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) PENS FOREVER!!! Mr Daniels. Might I impose on you for a favor? I need the default MD8x aircraft file for FS9. IF you would be willing to send it to me please do so at nightowl56@comcast.net. Thank you. RT. Johnstown, PA Not sure exactly what you mean? All the default aircraft should be installed in your FS2004 and if there are any missing they can be obtained from the CD's. Just checking my own installation, I have a md_83 folder. This is an AI aircraft so it doesn't appear in the flyable aircraft list. Edited March 17, 2022 by Skywatcher12 Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Wensley Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Not sure why you guys are arguing. For me, the Microsoft flight sims have all been the same. Planes that get better and fly over landscape that is much better than it was in the last one (though UT was needed) and it ends in an anticlimax as when you get there and land there is just an opportunity for scenery builders to spend the next ten years. Though I spent 15 years, so I wonder at my sanity. Edited March 17, 2022 by Roger Wensley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaopaz Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Not sure why you guys are arguing. For me, the Microsoft flight sims have all been the same. Planes that get better and fly over landscape that is much better than it was in the last one (though UT was needed) and it ends in an anticlimax as when you get there and land there is just an opportunity for scenery builders to spend the next ten years. Though I spent 15 years, so I wonder at my sanity. For the record *just* finished installing your North Slope on a parallel FS9 instance :) Am going to check later "in loco". If you get to read this: There are some "North Slope NN" number files missing... guess that you pulled them out? As for FS's, if you manage to log a memorable flight, no hickups, on that got you busy along the way - either flying properly or looking around - one sim that makes you believe in what you're doing! - that's a sim that did its job right. Joao Paz Alaskan Winds, L'Air Azur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 As for FS's, if you manage to log a memorable flight, no hickups, on that got you busy along the way - either flying properly or looking around - one sim that makes you believe in what you're doing! - that's a sim that did its job right. If you launch MSFS, you can achieve all the above in another sim before your plane is on the runway and ready to fly in MSFS. lol Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 If you launch MSFS, you can achieve all the above in another sim before your plane is on the runway and ready to fly in MSFS. lol LOL, not if you have a modern computer, lol. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caphavoc Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toftedal Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Good to know other folks are still using Fs9. I fly it exclusively and practically every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 LOL, not if you have a modern computer, lol. haha, you are a funny man. If only the others could have a little sense of humor. ;) I know you deleted posts in the FSX forum "Head in the Clouds" if you're reading. I'm sure you are. :p Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfolsom Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) My sim is better than yours means nothing. Talk is cheap. Do you know how you can really tell what is good and what is not? You look at attitudes! There are 4-5 of you MSFS guys that are really, really grumpy! Why? You can look back at any of my previous 1,282 posts and you will not find one where I get grumpy because someone likes something besides FS9. The reason for this is I am not frustrated, I am not waiting for the next update and the next update and the next update in hope I may one day actually be happy. My sim brings me nothing but joy! The entire planet can hate it but it would make no difference to me. I'll still smile every time I launch it and watch that magical menu open up! (errr...opens very quickly too!) Unlike yourself with FS9, I understand MSFS. When was the last time you used FS9? You make reference to memory. You're not even talking about the right sim! :rolleyes: And yes, my PC will run MSFS. To summarize everything, MSFS is a pile of bug ridden junk and a pretty picture game. FS9 is the best flight sim in the world! You just have to accept it. I know you could if you tried hard enough! I have faith. lol So that's where you are going? Yours is bigger than mine attitude? That's childish nonsense. As for attitudes, yours is of a superiority complex. Show me the stats that 4-5 of the MSFS guys are really, really grumpy. Maybe you should re-review all your posts in the MSFS 2020 forum because you get very grumpy there where you berate anyone who enjoys MSFS 2020. Although you haven't actually said the words, you've implied that anyone who enjoys it is stupid and a moron and doesn't know what they are talking about. I'm glad you enjoy FS2004 which is almost two decades old. I bet you think Windows 98 is still a fantastic operating system also. Are you still using it also? Unlike you who has never used MSFS 2020, I used FS2004 for 12 years before I got tired of the antiquated graphics and flight models. You might as well use Train Simulator as that is the way the aircraft fly in FS2004. I then moved to FSX but was not impressed with it at all so I moved to P3D for many years, even used X-Plane also. So don't tell me I don't understand FS9. Then MSFS 2020 came out and I couldn't believe how fantastic it is. And when I "launch" it, it only takes a just over one minute to open, which in your antiquated computer would be a miracle. And you definitely don't understand MSFS 2020 because YOU have never used it and I think you are lying about having a system that can run it. That's why you haven't tried it personally! Maybe you are too young to know that the 32 bit FS9 has a 2 GB memory limitation, but I remember. It was a major cause of memory leaks and overload and caused major Blue Screen Of Death problems when flying over a couple of hours. It happened to me quite often and not just on my computer. My high end computer at work did the same thing, and not just too me. When it was extremely slow at work my fellow workmates would do a flight and then complain to me that the program crashed on a regular basis when they tried it and wanted me to "fix it". There was no fix so what do you do? To summarize everything, I'm just tired of you thinking you can spit in other people's soup and walk away unscalthed in the MSFS 2020 Forum. So I'm here to spit in your soup for a change to see how you like it! FS2004 is a primitive, old, ancient program that is not realistic in any way and full of bugs and limitations. There is nobody who is going to update FS9 to modernize it in any way. You should get into the modern era and stop trying to relive your childhood. Stop living in the past and I triple dog dare you to try MSFS 2020 on steam for $1 for a month. Then maybe we might listen to your ridiculous criticisms. And stop lying about your poor computer specs!! At least you can post your computer specs so everyone who seems to listen to you will know how inadequate your system really is. I triple dog dare you again! Edited March 18, 2022 by kevinfolsom MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus Motherboard, I9-10900K 5.1 Ghz, 64 GB 3200 DDR4 Ram, Nvidia RTX 4080 16GB V-Ram, 1 TB NVMe M.2 Drive For Windows 11, 2 TB NVMe M.2 Drive For MSFS, 850W P/S, HP Reverb G2 VR Headset, Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit, Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfolsom Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 @kevinfolsom sir, I forgive you BECAUSE you do not know what you are talking !!! Because I have my friendly day otherwise I would take the liberty to tell you the truth about your IT knowledge. You must be one of the persons who likes looks over substance !! OMG Sincerely G. Kirschstein What the heck are you talking about. You make no sense. What IT knowledge are you talking about? You don't need an IT degree to assess a flight simulator. What substance? You mean in an antiquated program like FS9? Please explain yourself, sir. MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus Motherboard, I9-10900K 5.1 Ghz, 64 GB 3200 DDR4 Ram, Nvidia RTX 4080 16GB V-Ram, 1 TB NVMe M.2 Drive For Windows 11, 2 TB NVMe M.2 Drive For MSFS, 850W P/S, HP Reverb G2 VR Headset, Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Unit, Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTarana45 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 How many bug reports did Fs2002 get for crashing to the desktop when you changed the view options? Christopher Tarana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 That's why you haven't tried it personally! Maybe you are too young to know that the 32 bit FS9 has a 2 GB memory limitation, but I remember. It was a major cause of memory leaks and overload and caused major Blue Screen Of Death problems when flying over a couple of hours. It happened to me quite often and not just on my computer. My high end computer at work did the same thing, and not just too me. When it was extremely slow at work my fellow workmates would do a flight and then complain to me that the program crashed on a regular basis when they tried it and wanted me to "fix it". There was no fix so what do you do? The only part you left out is that you are not playing any more and taking your ball home! lol Anyone can search my posts. I hope someone does in the hope of finding something similar to your post above or several other posts you have made. They'll be searching almost 1,300 posts with no success. Please, I'm not going to call anyone stupid. However, at least twice in this thread it was mentioned to you that FS9 does not suffer from the memory limitation. Yes, with 2gb it may crash for a few people depending what they run. So what do those people do? They increase it to 4gb and "tada!" crashes are all gone! POOF! If you didn't know how to do the most fundamental things in FS9, I highly, highly doubt you had the capability of ever bringing it to it's best. My PC runs MSFS. I've posted the specs before to your group when requested. Please search if you are desperate to know. I don't need to try MSFS, I really don't. I play many games and can determine games I will not like without needing to play them first. I think most people can otherwise life would be nothing but testing games. Finally, you are welcome here any time you like. I honestly enjoy you dropping by! I don't own this forum. It's open to anyone and everyone. Please take a flight in MSFS. Hopefully it will take the stress away. I'm going to do a flight now in the best sim on this planet! Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004! Come sing with us! Glory, Glory, FS9'ers Glory, Glory, FS9'ers Glory, Glory, FS9'ers As FS9 goes marching on on on!!!!!! Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 C'mon Kevin! Let's hear it one more time! Woohoo! Glory, Glory, FS9'ers Glory, Glory, FS9'ers Glory, Glory, FS9'ers As FS9 goes marching on on on!!!!!! Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Sorry, changed my mind on the idea I had here. I don't have enough time to waste on the idea as it could drag on! Here's a screenshot anyhow just for something to look at. haha Edited March 18, 2022 by Skywatcher12 Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solomod Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Still flying FS9. Tried FSX, XPlane, RoF and others but still with FS9. I have lots of add-ons - Ultimate Terrain, Ground environment etc - but the best-ever add-on? Flight sim Navigator - nobody else has anything to match it. I cannot remember how much I paid for it all those years ago but it was a bargain. And I'm too old to learn another set of key-strokes. Happy flying folks. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicS Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Sorry, changed my mind on the idea I had here. I don't have enough time to waste on the idea as it could drag on! Here's a screenshot anyhow just for something to look at. haha Mark, I know FS2004 is your sim of choice (we all have a favorite we go to), so why not promote it in the MSFS Screenshot Forum? It's a place where people simply appreciate what the hobby offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Mark, I know FS2004 is your sim of choice (we all have a favorite we go to), so why not promote it in the MSFS Screenshot Forum? It's a place where people simply appreciate what the hobby offers. Oh, I intend to promote it Dominic but 2022 isn't the year. I don't have time on my hands right now but that will change in the not too distant future. The screenshot was just to show some AI aircraft, nothing else. Not worthy of any special attention in a specific screenie forum. Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPHILL3 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 OK. All those out there with a cathode ray computer monitor, raise your hands:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaopaz Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Maybe you are too young to know that the 32 bit FS9 has a 2 GB memory limitation, but I remember. It was a major cause of memory leaks and overload and caused major Blue Screen Of Death problems when flying over a couple of hours. It happened to me quite often and not just on my computer. My high end computer at work did the same thing, and not just too me. When it was extremely slow at work my fellow workmates would do a flight and then complain to me that the program crashed on a regular basis when they tried it and wanted me to "fix it". There was no fix so what do you do? Hi! No bluescreens around here, never. Windows 10 with a myriad of addons. This has been around for a long time: https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?337080-4GB-patch-to-FS9 OK. All those out there with a cathode ray computer monitor, raise your hands:) :D :D :D Would love to, but unfortunately no...! And, btw, just use windows because of FS9. Otherwise it's Linux in the house ;) Joao Paz Alaskan Winds, L'Air Azur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaopaz Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 but the best-ever add-on? Flight sim Navigator - nobody else has anything to match it. I cannot remember how much I paid for it all those years ago but it was a bargain. And I'm too old to learn another set of key-strokes. Happy flying folks. David I can only sign under this! FSNav is fabulous, gets out of the way in the most clever way, and I'm just using a small part of it, I'm sure. + + + .....and so far 17 reported flying actively FS9! What a crowd :D But I suppose there will be many more around here! B) Joao Paz Alaskan Winds, L'Air Azur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leuen Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I'm going to do a flight now in the best sim on this planet! Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004! You might be right. But don't minimize the fact, that FS9 isn't able to offer an acceptable Arctic area. That's the worst thing and really a wrong programning! Ok, it's certainly not the most important and most flown area on Earth. However, correct landings at Thule AB or all other Arctic airfields should be possible. A great lack in FS9. Bernard Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joaopaz Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 You might be right. But don't minimize the fact, that FS9 isn't able to offer an acceptable Arctic area. That's the worst thing and really a wrong programning! Ok, it's certainly not the most important and most flown area on Earth. However, correct landings at Thule AB or all other Arctic airfields should be possible. A great lack in FS9. Bernard Bernard This just reminded me... one of the craziest events that there ever was in MSFS, BOTA: The Battle Of The Airlines! I think it was 2 years, with "Mission Moon" in 2004 :D perhaps earlier?? It was still FS98 .... so I can't land on the Artic (would love to!) but already landed on the Moon :D It was dozens of VAs and 100s of pilots all around the world, round the clock, frantic flying, with impossible, crazy missions! For those days standards that addon (it was a program that controlled FS, scenery, missions, etc) was nothing short of amazing. In our VA at that time even some of our wives participated as copilots as it was just too much we had to do :D Miss those crazy days! Joao Paz Alaskan Winds, L'Air Azur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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