Qballbandit Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Hello, On a new Win10 Gaming desktop, I installed a fresh copy of MSFS/FS9 into a directory outside of "Programs*', called MSFS_FRESH. I then installed the patch, followed by the No/CD patch. Working fine. From my WIN7 machine, copied my entire MSFS directory over to the WIN10 machine. I renamed the MSFS_FRESH directory to MSFS_DEFAULT. I renamed my WIN7 MSFS directory to MSFS_FRESH. I copied the FS9 execute from the MSFS_DEFAULT into MSFS_FRESH. Finally, I saved the new FS9.cfg file off safely, and then copy/replaced my WIN7 FS9.cfg into the WIN10 machine. Per a post I read, I made sure I installed "directx_Jun2010_redist", and "Visual C++ for 08 & 10 (could not find one for 05, which was also recommended...is this needed ?) When I click the FS9 execute (which is set to "Run As Administrator), I see the COF splash screen come up for a few seconds, then disappear. What steps have I missed completing or file installing? Many thanks for your assistance and patience. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Hi Neil, As per the post at the top of the forum, did you: 5. Right-click the FS9.exe, select Properties 6. Select Compatibility mode, & select XP 7. At bottom, then select 'Run as Administrator' That should do the trick. But You confused me with all the renaming... So, you installed a fresh install into C:\ (NOT Program Files) You did the patch & no-cd crack & it all works. Did you do the above 'Properties' steps? Then you renamed it to MSFS_Fresh & it all worked Remember to rename the FS9.exe as well!! And it all works? Then you copied over your full install from Windows 7, also into C:\ (not Program Files) It should still have the original named Main folder & FS9.exe Do the 'Properties' steps as above, with the FS9.exe, then right-click it & 'Send to Desktop" Run it! So Now you have 2 FS9 installs, an original install, called MSFS_Fresh, with a matching exe, & you should have a 2nd install, from your old Windows 7, with it's original folder name & exe name... Both should work!! If not, we can try something else, BUT 99.99% should be working!! Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbreak754 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 .....could not find one for 05, which was also recommended...is this needed ?) Hi Neil Yes it is needed. You can find download links for earlier versions HERE You will need to download the relevant 'bit' version for your OS (i.e. 32 or 64 bit). Click on the required link and a standard download option box will appear - DO NOT run the installer from this but select the Save As option and save the file to temp location. To install, right click on the file and select the Run as Administrator option. Install each package separately, starting with the oldest version, and reboot using the RESTART option between each install. The reboot is essential to allow the windows registry and important system files to be updated. Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 When you copied the fs9.exe file from the Default to the Fresh you might have overwritten the no-CD patch? I know you said you didn't, but try reinstalling the no-CD patch into the Fresh folder. The other problem may be the copying of the fs9.cfg file over to the new machine. Due to video card settings in that old cfg file it may not work with the new one. Try renaming it to fs9.cfg.win7 and restart FS. It will create a new one and that might work better. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qballbandit Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Thanks to all of you - I will have a go at your suggestions tonight, and report back. Much appreciated! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qballbandit Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Brian - I get nothing when I click on the link "HERE" that you provided in your reply, but found it anyway and installed it. I now have 5/8/10 installed. Tom - I reinstalled the no-cd patch. I then deleted the FS9.cfg file and tried to start the sim - a brief display of the COF screen, and then it's gone. No startup. It creates a new .cfg file which is empty; no values inside. Robin - other ideas are certainly welcome. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Try using the FS9.cfg that worked. You said you also swapped over the FS9.exe. Try it with the original one that worked before. Uncheck run as admin and any compatibility modes. You almost certainly don't need these. DirectX and Visual C would also not be required. Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Forget this post. Realized it's not necessary. Edited October 5, 2020 by Skywatcher12 Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 OK, lets try get back to a basic working version, as in post 1. Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qballbandit Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Started over. Uninstalled the default version and mine from WIN7. Reinstalled a fresh copy of FS9 Now I have a fully patched default FS9 that works just fine. Neil Edited October 5, 2020 by Qballbandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 So, your Windows 7 FS2004 is there as well... Rename the fresh FS2004 to FS2004-Fresh Run it. If it crashes, copy the FS2004.exe from Fresh into the Win7 sim Run it.. Working? Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qballbandit Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 I've done all of that multiple times with no luck. There is something wiggy about my Win7 version that is just no allowing a full start. Whether I use the new default fs9.exe or not, whether I rename the folders or not, the darned COF splash screen, starts sits a few seconds, then boink - gone. I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it doesn't like my old version? The only thing I have not done yet is physically copy/paste my Win7 Version into the fresh default WIN10 folder (saving the patched .exe off first, then copying it back). It is probably something simple, and that is what is driving me nuts! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I was going to suggest that.. You might have a Scenery issue, that could be sorted out. First, just to try, copy everything EXCEPT FS9.cfg & the scenery.cfg over (yet) To safeguard everything, if you have the space, make a copy of the working FS2004, the main folder, & call it FS2004-Backup, so if anything dies, it's easy to copy & replace from the backup. Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The problem I've found with the move method is that some installers can't find FS9. Which is quite the pain when you have some nice (kinda expensive) payware add-ons. https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 As long as you keep the folder name of the desired copy the same as the one originally installed, you should be OK. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 As long as you keep the folder name of the desired copy the same as the one originally installed, you should be OK. Trouble is the moving method with multiple installs requires of of them to be renamed. Some installers though still cant find it. If its not in the x86 programs folder - which on many previous installs on different PC's I never ever ever ever had any issues with - it cant find it. I'm having that issue now reinstalling it with Aerosoft and FSDT sceneries. So I'm going to have to make a new install using the disks into the x86 folder just to install sceneries which kinda defeats the purpose of many things. https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 That's what I've done occasionally. The Registry Repair tool helps... from https://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library This tool will repair your FSX or FS9 registry so that the path is valid. Many times certain applications use this path. If it is invalid, some programs may not work. Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The flight1 registry tool makes zero difference. Some add-ons were made with installers that will only point to the C:\Program files (x86) folder otherwise no go Joe. Aerosoft. FSDT. Tropicsim or LatinVFR are the same. Which I have several of each. Wont accept installation in any place other then the default location. https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zswobbie1 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Then the only thing is to install into the default, then copy & paste where it needs to go. Nothing else, really Robin Cape Town, South Africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Thats what I'm kinda figuring.. WHo knows, that one might even work ok too. https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 A great deal of payware often has all kinds of anti-piracy measures in place so a proper install needs to be done or it won't work. Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Very true. I'll need to install in the default location and do everything that way, or copy across from my old HDD each one and just add it manually. That works as well. Thank goodness for those USB HDD readers. :) https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 You can install FS9 anywhere just some of the add-ons don’t allow any choice for their install location. Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMR Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 You can install FS9 anywhere just some of the add-ons don’t allow any choice for their install location. Which is kinda odd when some have installers that allow you to browse other locations for your FS9 installation. But then wont let you install the add-on there. Maybe I am just a little dumb. I dont know..too much beer? Red wine? Who knows.... https://fshub.io/airline/RUA/overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Which is kinda odd when some have installers that allow you to browse other locations for your FS9 installation. But then wont let you install the add-on there. The add-ons that allow you to pick a location to find your FS9 would be so you can still install the add-on if your registry pointing to your FS9 folder is screwed up. The add-ons that don't allow you to choose your FS9 location expect you to fix your FS problems before messing with their add-on. lol Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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