Kapitan Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Why most avatar pilots are blacks or dark skinned, one oriental couple and look like rough? (Out of a fighting game, poorly shaven) Why arent there no middle aged pilots or senior captains with grey or white hair (ageism?) Why there no blondes, balds? In all...why dont they put avatars that look more like real people? Is that a technological difficulty? In trying to be political correct MS has put up a poorly representative group of real aviation pilots Hope to see more plurality in future patches Kapitan Anything I say is...not as serious as you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaiiden Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 *shrug* they look fine and generic to me. personal issues will reflect on things like this a lot. Impossible to please everyone (I say this as a black/asian/european mutt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Energizer23 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I agree, Looks like a bunch of gang members.:rolleyes: Windows 11, Intel i9-9900K, 32GB DDR4/3000 MHz, GeForce RTX 2070, 1TB M.2 Drive dedicated to Flight Sim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Wombat Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The omission of generally white people is flat-out r*cist. Someone in FS management must have chosen to omit white people. As for myself, I am at least of four different racial groups, and I fully appreciate your concern. Is there a place to make suggestions for FS? I was at least hoping to find some plug-in for a real diversity of avatars. Also, I thought it would be fun to select some goofy character avatars, such as dogs, martians, sci-fi characters, etc. I would love to have my yellow Labrador Retriever sitting in the plane with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitan Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Its the scare out of all this blacklivesmatter thing, companies are scared of being accused of non-political correct or favoring oppression. Which in turn creates racism because this MS attitude that is bluntly unrealistic shows it was done out of pity, "yeah we know its not a real representation but lets say we are all for equality by showing more of one side at least in the game" pathetic Edited September 18, 2020 by Kapitan Kapitan Anything I say is...not as serious as you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugilist2 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I agree, and wish Asobo would make an option to create your own avatar! I saw a YouTube video a while ago where somebody created their own avatar. Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz Cpu, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB Videocard, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360 Water Cooler, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI Motherboard, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W Power Supply, G.SKILL 48Gb Ram @76000 MHz DDR5 Ram, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB Drive, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Wombat Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Kapitan, I agree with you. I have asked and asked around on various forums, but I haven't found any clear explanations. The toxic Critical Race Theory appears to blame everything on white males. That is, facts don't matter when neo-Marxist ideology wants to impose itself on society. Has Microsoft adopted such a racist neo-Marxist policies? Their actions speak seem to confirm that. Racism, age bias, and sexism (on the part of Microsoft's decisions) aside, I would be happy with add-on avatars, including some goofy-looking science fiction characters. Also, I wouldn't mind have my Labrador Retriever as an avatar as a passenger or co-pilot seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberleaf Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) How did a post wanting / requesting more avatar options become one of racism, ageism, sexism, or any other "ism"? Edited October 12, 2020 by Timberleaf Timberleaf Win 10 | Area 51 R5 | i7 9800x 4.5 GHz | RTX 2080 8GB | 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4 | HP Envy 34c "One woman's chop is another man's turbulence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle74 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 This is an unfortunate truth of racism - it always causes more racism until you have a vicious circle. The vast majority of MSFS users will be white men, for certain, but even if they weren't - and for argument's sake we'll say all sim flyers are equally represented by all groups - deliberately erasing all white avatars out of the flight sim is still a racist thing to do. The people working at Microsoft know what they're doing. They didn't accidentally forget to include any white male avatars. They sat around and said "We should exclude white male avatars from this simulator as part of the hard left agenda to exclude that group from society, just as they do in the movies and commercials." That is why the debate went from I'd like a white avatar to talk of racism - because the decision to cut white avatars was a racist one and it invited the response it was looking for. In my view, politics should play NO PART in entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marangog Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Big fuss over nothing, in my opinion. As unimportant as the skin colour of your aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Flight Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Definitely should be able to make your own avatar like my friend over on the left which is a picture I took in Juno Alaska. Liquid cooled, Intel i7-10700K, NVIDIA 3070, G.Skill Ram 32 GB, 2TB M.2 NVME. Z490 MB Loads of Christmas lights. :pilot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrylawdinn Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I'm half way round a tour which includes UK, France, Spain and Morocco. Whenever I land at an airport I'm always marshalled in by the same guy..................!!! :) (Oh and by the way he's a very dark-skinned individual with RayBan sunglasses - his mate on the pushback truck is a male white Caucasian, also with RayBans, so no racialism there!) :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgswimmer Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 What if I want to fly out of California and want to be a hot blonde female... Or my flight originates out of Italy and I want my avatar to be an older Italian male.. Or maybe out of... you get the point, GIVE US VARIETY! We all desire different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waymon Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) I agree that there should be a lot more diversity in the sim but it doesn't feel too good being left outta does it? Welcome to our world white people! I'm sure Microsoft will fix the problem in due time especially after seeing this gripe session. Edited March 24, 2021 by Nels_Anderson Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz /Graphics: Red devil RX6800XT 16GB /MB: X570 Gaming WiFi / ram: 32GB@3600 MHz /500GB M.2 Drive /1TB SSD /3-Asus 27" Displays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waymon Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I agree, Looks like a bunch of gang members.:rolleyes: I find this statement very offensive, We are not gang members because we have dark skin but I'm hoping this is just sarcasm! Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz /Graphics: Red devil RX6800XT 16GB /MB: X570 Gaming WiFi / ram: 32GB@3600 MHz /500GB M.2 Drive /1TB SSD /3-Asus 27" Displays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitan Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 The sim must depict reality This is not a race gender correctional software Let the race discussion run elswehere. All races are welcomed, i dont care I just want a bit of reality. If you fly to Beijing airport, you wont see race diversity there, all airport personnel are asian chinese. So diversity is not a MUST, it depends on reality, location. The sim should concentrate in depicting REALITY not how it SHOULD be So the right thing to do for crew, take airline for example is as follows Send a photographer to a main US airport *example Atlanta, and another to a european airport (Paris Charles de Gaulle) ask this photographer to take pictures of crews as much as he can walking arriving and departing the building Back at the office separate those photos by race and count them. Then poportional to this figure depict the pilots in the sim Thats the right way of doing it The rest is ONU fem hollywood or ongs talk Kapitan Anything I say is...not as serious as you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilends Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Ironically, my reaction to the whiners complaining that Flight Simulator is racist because the copilot avatars aren't white enough--who include people who pontificate about "political correctness"--was censored from this forum, along with similar reactions from several other users. Hilarious. Please do me a favor: send me a copy of your official complaint to Microsoft about this. I would looooove to read it. :D Intel Core i7 10700KF (8-Core 5.1GHz Turbo Boost), RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB Dual Channel at 3200MHz, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. Monitor: Samsung C49RG9x. VR: Oculus Quest 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilends Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I find this statement very offensive, We are not gang members because we have dark skin but I'm hoping this is just sarcasm! It's fascinating but predictable that the actually-racist comments on this thread have all been permitted to stay, while the numerous comments criticizing them have been censored. Glad yours survived for whatever reason. I agree with you of course. This thread is ridiculous, and as I said before, revolting. Intel Core i7 10700KF (8-Core 5.1GHz Turbo Boost), RTX 3070 8GB, 32GB Dual Channel at 3200MHz, 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. Monitor: Samsung C49RG9x. VR: Oculus Quest 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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