pilotposer Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Tom Gibson's CalClassic DC7 is the best propliner for FS9. Downloads perfectly and it flys beautiful. Everything is straight forward in regards to flying a plane of this era. Available at CalClassic.com and its freeware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColR1948 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 +1 on that and all of Tom's other aircraft, you haven't been a simmer if you haven't flown and got any of his great aircraft. Not only that he's a nice guy too, always willing to help when he can. Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Fully agree. amazing aircraft. Connies are Great! also. Kudos to Tom Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hi, Thanks guys. :) Just tried to fly a Pan Am DC-7C from LAX to Heathrow nonstop so I am very familiar with the plane again. The winds (FSrealWX lite) did not cooperate and I barely made it into Prestwick. Will have to finish the flight later. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Wow Tom, even early 747s 1/200 did not make it on one shot. We had to pit stop in ANC for fuel. In flight re-fueling not available:) Peter exBA Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatcher12 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Tom Gibson's site is one of the first places I downloaded aircraft from when I first began with FS9. An absolute treasure of quality FS add-ons. I remember how much fun I had. Historic Jetliners Group is another great site. I think it's fantastic these two sites are still going strong and still supporting FS9. Mark Daniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markg55 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I have a separate FS9 install dedicated to Calclassic and era flight simming. CalClassic is a treasure trove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam1220 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Tom Gibson's site is one of the first places I downloaded aircraft from when I first began with FS9. An absolute treasure of quality FS add-ons. I remember how much fun I had. Historic Jetliners Group is another great site. I think it's fantastic these two sites are still going strong and still supporting FS9. Absolutely. I have purchased add on aircraft but they all sit in my hangar unused. The best FS9 aircraft and ones I still use today are from CalClassic and HJG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hi, Thanks again for the nice words. The DC-7C Seven Seas and L-1649A Starliner really ushered in the concept of nonstop polar flights. While SAS had pioneered "polar flights" with their flights from Copenhagen to LAX using DC-6Bs, they really weren't polar flights - they didn't get any further north than southern Greenland, and had two stops - Søndre Strømfjord (now Kangerlussuaq) and Winnepeg, Manitoba. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/sk/sk5604/sk564-58.jpg With the introduction of the DC-7C in late 1956, SAS added a true polar route from Copenhagen to Tokyo, with a stop in Anchorage, Alaska, and dropped the Søndre Strømfjord stop on the route to LAX on most days. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/sk/sk57/sk57-03.jpg After TWA had announced that they would be introducing nonstop California - Europe service with their upcoming L-1649As, Pan Am added new routes (which appeared to be nonstop in their timetable) from London and Paris to LAX, SFO, and SEA. While these were also described ad "polar route" flights, like the SAS route they also did not get that close to the north pole. If they caught a good tailwind (much more common eastbound than westbound) they might just make it to London nonstop. Westbound flights, those to Paris, and if loaded almost always had to stop, usually at Frobisher Bay, Prestwick, Seattle, or other Pan Am served airport. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/pa/pa58/pa58-04.jpg TWA then put its new L-1649As in competition to Pan Am on the route, and with its longer range could make the run nonstop much more often. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/tw59/tw59-09.jpg When the jets arrived, they indeed did not have the range to fly these routes. Pan Am and TWA discontinued the polar flights for a short time, since flying jets via New York was actually faster than flying the propliners nonstop. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/pa/pa60/pa60-04.jpg When the long range 707-320 Intercontinental was introduced, "nonstop" flights were added back to the timetables. Again, these often had to stop for fuel if conditions were not perfect. http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/pa/pa61/pa61-04.jpg http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/tw60/tw60-10.jpg Thanks again, Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beroun Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Many Thanks Tom, very educational! On fuel pit stops, it did not end. We (BA) now fly A318 from JFK to London City Airport nonstop but must stop in Shannon on the way back to JFK ….. guess why? to get fuel to cross the Atlantic westbound:) Cheers, Peter Peter Bendl ex. British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgibson_new Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 That's true. While fuel stops are pretty much a thing of the past, there are still a few routes that require it. And cargo runs still make stops so they can carry more payload. Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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