stinger2k2 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Hi All, Anyone know what is happening over at NGIS?. No updates and I have sent two messages to try to get my forum registration activated with no reply? Have they thrown in the towel? cheers Stinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSkorna Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The last update said that they were going into total secrecy. http://www.air-source.us/images/sigs/000219_195_jimskorna.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The last update said that they were going into total secrecy. Sort of like they are all sitting around under the "cone of silence"? Last I heard about them, they said "maybe in the next 5 years or so". Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinger2k2 Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Sort of like they are all sitting around under the "cone of silence"? Last I heard about them, they said "maybe in the next 5 years or so". Oh well, that was that then ! Dovetail Games here I come as soon as they release theirs :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Lots of mellifluous verbiage but not even a screenshot. "Promises, promises." I've seen too much vaporware in the past 25 years to even read WIP threads anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I know Stephen Borick does not like us 'members of the public' to speculate about NGIS, but here goes. I suspect NGIS is indeed working behind the scenes, but who knows what sort of progress they are making on the mother of all projects _ 'a next generation flight simulator to beat everything else currently on the market, including X_plane, P3D and Aerofly FS etc'. Mind you, in Stephens own words: the NGIS sim wont cover the whole world, at least not until later versions apparently, and it may take a long while until the sim is actually released apparently, so we are told we need to be patient. NGIS said ".... please try not to forget this going forward... TEAM NGiS is made up of all volunteer members who have real lives and real jobs. At the moment we don't have the luxury of putting 40 hours each into the project on a weekly basis, so don't expect leaps and bounds of progress as it's just not going to happen as quickly as you may want it to. But I can guarantee that it will progress and will be released on as much of a timely basis as we're capable of. I truly don't expect the community to get behind NGiS/DVC until we have something substantial to show in the form of a SHOWCASE DEMO, which may not be for another 6 months to a year. However, when we do finally show what we've been creating, it will be a "I want it Now!" moment for enthusiasts of the flight simulation genre. That is a day that we're all looking forward to... Creators and End Users alike. What I'm saying here is that patience will be rewarded... in a way that I fully expect will be worthy of the name Next Generation! - Stephen Borick" http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=641#p641 ----- I just think it would be good if NGIS could at least kept their forum up to date and actually respond (at least politely) to requests from the very few members who do bother to post over there-- http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/index.php Anyway, I'm pretty sure if any flight_sim deserves to be called 'next-gen' its Aerofly, even if its still in early release__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 No updates and I have sent two messages to try to get my forum registration activated with no reply? Well, they have their own forum at flightsim.com. Maybe they"ll respond here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Anyway, I'm pretty sure if any flight_sim deserves to be called 'next-gen' its Aerofly, even if its still in early release You could always ask for a separate Aerofly forum :D Anyway, the thing that puts me off somewhat is no animated traffic. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I know Stephen Borick does not like us 'members of the public' to speculate about NGIS.... I wonder why. In my opinion nothing is above speculation, debate, critique. ... the mother of all projects _ ... Lol, remember "the mother of all battles". 'a next generation flight simulator to beat everything else.... and it may take a long while until the sim is actually released ... Overall I'm reminded of "Battlecruiser 3000". And with such a nebulous timeline it is quite possible by the time of release there will be numerous contenders for the hyped "beat everything else" title. (Of course he did say "beat everything else currently on the market" .... does that mean FSX, XPlane, etc.? or is the project presumptuous enough to make that claim against whatever else may be on the market at whatever point this project actually reaches fruition?) With all due respect to the project, all I read is hype, with no substance. "We are going to do this", "we are going to do that", but not a single "we have done this". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 With all due respect to the project, all I read is hype, with no substance. "We are going to do this", "we are going to do that", but not a single "we have done this". There are still flickers of hope over at the NGIS camp. So all is not lost. Ahem! ;-) http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=148&p=732#p732 ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Well, they have their own forum at flightsim.com. Maybe they"ll respond here? Ha ha, yes, well maybe :rolleyes: Lol, remember "the mother of all battles". DO I REMEMBER IT? Man what a debate! I remember RatRace adding gasoline to the furnace for days but then stamping desperately on the flames when the fire got out of hand ;-) (In fact the heat generated by that debate was so intense that apparently the flightsim.com. moderators haven't managed to get into the NGIS forum since because its still red hot. :) But seriously guys, in answer to the original question: Has NGIS folded? Well perhaps it has, but not in the way you might think__ New direction for flight simulation , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I found the following update on Facebook from "Stephen Borick and The Co-Operative". (Sounds like the name of a jazz group ;-) 26 August "No, we haven't gone home... in fact we've made tremendous strides since April to include a partnership relationship with a very strong company within the Professional Training and Simulation Industry as well as organized The Co-Operative with 7 Teams who have also been in the professional side of simulation for over 15 years. With this gathering of skills and tools out of the way we're now putting into place the "who does what" phase that accompanies any project and will begin development of a ShowCase Demo very shortly... which we hope to be showing at ITEC in April. Once we're in that position we'll be able to divulge more and more details of who we're actually working with and how we're progressing. At that time we'll start including some images of our progress as well. I can tell you this... NGiS and the teams that make up The Co-Operative are very capable of producing The Next Generation Flight Simulator at the level that you'd expect, being that it's next generation. Although we're not posting a great deal... we're busy! If we should decide to forgo this project, we'll be sure to post it here. Meanwhile... keep the faith... we're moving, full steam ahead". - Stephen Borick https://www.facebook.com/NextGenerationInteractiveSoftware ------- Well there you go. At least Stephen appears to have toned down the intense hype of his previous updates. Strange that he included the line, "If we should decide to forgo this project, we'll be sure to post it here". Remember guys, we mustn't speculate. Stephen will get cross ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Strange that he included the line, "If we should decide to forgo this project, we'll be sure to post it here". Remember guys, we mustn't speculate. Stephen will get cross ;-) Sorta sounds like a flip-floppin' Presidential candidate! :rolleyes: Wonder if Stephen has a shaggy comb-over?;) Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Sorta sounds like a flip-floppin' Presidential candidate! :rolleyes: Wonder if Stephen has a shaggy comb-over?;) There's certainly been a wall of silence erected :eek:) ...the thing that puts me off somewhat is no animated traffic. Too bad. Apparently animated traffic is on Aerofly's to do list. Meanwhile even the MSFS big boys are enjoying the ultra-smooth ride in AFS2-- - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slammr Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Sorta sounds like a flip-floppin' Presidential candidate! :rolleyes: Wonder if Stephen has a shaggy comb-over?;) Or wears $10,000 Mao-style pantsuits and needs a micro-earbud to help keep him on track? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Or wears $10,000 Mao-style pantsuits and needs a micro-earbud to help keep him on track? :rolleyes: :) Some action at least on the NGIS forum if not the actual simulator at the moment http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 :) Some action at least on the NGIS forum if not the actual simulator at the moment http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=150 So, they have moved into the business of baseball caps ! Why not try selling T-shirts ? http://i3.cpcache.com/product/595265018/funny_airplane_womens_dark_tshirt.jpg?color=CaribbeanBlue&height=460&width=460&qv=90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 So, they have moved into the business of baseball caps ! Why not try selling T-shirts ? I wonder how much they are willing to pay me to wear one to advertise their product? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So, they have moved into the business of baseball caps ! Why not try selling T-shirts ? No, sorry, t-shirts aren't the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 No, sorry, t-shirts aren't the answer. :D I've always been a Monty Python fan, and this NGIS saga does remind me of one of their sketches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I wonder how much they are willing to pay me to wear one to advertise their product? Maybe XPlane and P3D should also get into advertising on baseball caps. :) I doubt it will go anywhere with NGIS though. It's obviously just a light hearted fun post for entertainment purposes only, and no takers in any case _____ http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=743#p743 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Well its been months since we last discussed this topic and I'm becoming more doubtful that we'll ever see a Nexgen flightsim completed. Even the hardcore NGIS fans appear to have mostly given up hope.... http://forum.nexgenflightsim.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=155 I think its quite mean of NGIS not to even reply to their faithful hard-core members, many of whom log in each day to the NGIS site hoping for some news. Meanwhile the NGIS forum appears not to be accepting new members; and one official comment posted on NGIS's Facebook page some weeks ago said there would be no news updates issued until next year ...so its looking like this project might have been quietly kicked into the long grass. Saying that I half expect a Mr Borat to appear to tell me how very wrong I am ;-) https://www.facebook.com/NextGenerationInteractiveSoftware/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Mr. Borat's problem is that it is so difficult to get good slaves these days :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYflight Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Mr. Borat's problem is that it is so difficult to get good slaves these days :) You could be right. Perhaps no takers... https://sourceforge.net/p/jsbsim/mailman/message/35186482/ BTW. Loving these new aircraft mods in GTA. Enjoy >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRace Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 BTW. Loving these new aircraft mods in GTA. Enjoy >> That vid looks eerily realistic. GTA is top-notch in the eye-candy department. BTW, DCS isn't bad either, if you prefer military planes. I do wish they would improve on systems functionality however. DCS has the advantage there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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