Matt Davis Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 My 12 year old son and I recently became interested in Aviation after visiting the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field and seeing all the grounded 737 MAX planes, the B52, the concord, etc. We also went to Everet and toured the Boeing Plant there where they were building dreamliners and such. We live in Alaska, so we don't see many planes besides the Cessna Caravans that serve out local community and the 737 NGs that fly up and down the inside passage when we go to Juneau. I taught HS Math for 23 years and now find myself to be a HS Band/Choir teacher. We were using our Saitek yoke, quadrant, and pedals with FSX SE and the X56 throttle nd joystick, and also playing Combat Flight Simulator 3 European Theater. I bought three panels from Saitek: Multipanel, Comm, and switch, and was looking forward to using them after x-mas. They didn't work. So someone said download SPAD and install FSUIPC4 and it should work. Now FSX crashes all the time. I did verify that all panels function as they should using Logitech's testing software, and have only tried one panel with FSX: The multipanel. I will post the install log for FSUIPC4 and the event log for the FSX-SE crash. It would be nice if someone would help me out. I'm totally new at all this. I tried using Logitech's drivers but they did not seem to be seen at all by FSX, as the multipanel did not light up at all while it was running. I've watched a number of YouTube videos that try to tell me what to do, but they often refer to a Saitek folder in my Program Applications (x86) folder which does not exist. Here is the install log for FSUIPC4: Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.974 Looking in registry for FSX install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0 Parameter"SetupPath" ... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! SetupPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\ Looking in registry for FSX-SE install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DovetailGames\FSX Parameter"Install_Path" ... >>> OK! FOUND FSX-SE! SetupPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX Looking in registry for Prepar3D v1 install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D Parameter"SetupPath" Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D Parameter"AppPath" ... NOT found! ... Looking in registry for Prepar3D v2 install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2 Parameter"SetupPath" Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2 Parameter"AppPath" ... NOT found! ... Looking in registry for Prepar3D v3 install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Parameter"SetupPath" Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3 Parameter"AppPath" ... NOT found! ... =========================================================== INSTALLATION FOR FSX: SetupPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X" Checking version of the FSX EXE: ... Version 10.0.60905.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0) Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect: Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original) Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07) Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL ... Version 4.974 found. Installed version is later: it is not overwritten. Looking for the current user's Application Data path: ... found as "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming" Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one Looking in "C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default.migrated\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Student\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming" Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG" Now checking DLL.XML ... ... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section. ... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced. (for FSUIPC4, without Loader) ... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ... ... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay. "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists. Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder: Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay Installed "The 2016 List of FSX and P3D Controls.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 777X.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 747QOTSII.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4_Loader.dll" okay =========================================================== INSTALLATION FOR FSX-SE: SetupPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX" Checking version of the FSX-SE EXE: ... Version 10.0.63003.0 (Need at least 10.0.62607.0) !! WARNING !! This version of FSX-SE is later than any known by this FSUIPC4. There may be problems. Please check for a later version of FSUIPC4! Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect: Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original) Found SimConnect build 63003 (Steam) Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07) Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL ... Version 4.974 found. Installed version is later: it is not overwritten. Looking for the current user's Application Data path: ... found as "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming" Now finding \Microsoft\FSX-SE\FSX_SE.CFG for all users, including this one Looking in "C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Default.migrated\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Student\AppData\Roaming" ... No FSX_SE.CFG there Looking in "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming" Found FSX_SE.CFG in "C:\Users\Teacher\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX-SE\FSX_SE.CFG" Now checking DLL.XML ... ... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section. ... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced. (for FSUIPC4, without Loader) ... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ... ... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay. "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists. Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder: Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay Installed "The 2016 List of FSX and P3D Controls.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 777X.pdf" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 747QOTSII.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4_Loader.dll" okay =========================================================== All installer tasks completed. Registration dialog 'not now' selected *************** End of Install Log *************** Here is the Event log for the FSX-SE crash: Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.63003.0, time stamp: 0x5db04eb3 Faulting module name: FSUIPC4.dll, version: 4.9.7.4, time stamp: 0x5a914fb2 Exception code: 0xc0000409 Fault offset: 0x0004f78a Faulting process id: 0x214c Faulting application start time: 0x01d5bc464aa8ae9e Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll Report Id: 57a222ff-1c70-4d06-acb1-617db7469ef7 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrom Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Hi Matt, A couple of possibilities here preventing the FSUIPC4.dll module. Either you have a Administrator permissions issue preventing the module from being properly written into the FSX.cfg [Trusted] section In the FSX.cfg [Trusted] section: C:\path to FSX:SE root folder\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll.lhtbqauncutowicuhezlnctnrerwablkwbclktaz=1 Or In the dll.xml : FSUIPC 4 FalseDisabled> Modules\FSUIPC4.dll Or The entry path or enabled status in the dll.xml has been prevented from writing the FSUIPC4.dll module entry I would suggest you give your FSX folders & files Full Admin Permissions to read/write these entries into the [Trusted] sections. note: you should have seen a dialog when starting FSX, asking you to trust the module and add it to the list in FSX.cfg, which also creates the entry in the dll.xml file. Please don't use the FSX:SE beta version when troubleshooting these types of issues, some users have noted various things may not work under SE:beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 INSTALLATION FOR FSX-SE: SetupPath="C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX" Checking version of the FSX-SE EXE: ... Version 10.0.63003.0 (Need at least 10.0.62607.0) !! WARNING !! This version of FSX-SE is later than any known by this FSUIPC4. There may be problems. Please check for a later version of FSUIPC4! Better ask this at the FSUIPC Forum https://forum.simflight.com/forum/30-fsuipc-support-pete-dowson-modules/ Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 The fsuipc log says you are using a version of fsx-se that fsuipc does not know yet. Version 10.0.63003.0 of fsx-se. And that this can cause problems. I would think 'problems' means "problems with fsuipc itself" but who knows, maybe your problem also(?). It says to look for an updated version of Fsuipc so see if you can find one made for the open beta of fsx-se. The Fsx-se you use, version 10.0.63003.0 of fsx-se, is the open Beta version. There have been some issues like crashes reported with the Beta itself. So your issue may just be something with the open Beta and not caused by Fsuipc. An open beta version is a version that is unfinished. Put out there so users can help find the issues and report them back to dovetail. If you don't want to test out fsx-se updates for dovetail but just want to play and enjoy fsx:D, use the normal versions.:D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnSavory Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Also if you are using Windows 10 you will need to disable USB enhanced power settings. You can use the tool from this site. Run it as administrator and follow the onscreen prompts. http://uraster.com/en-us/products/usbenhancedpowermanagerdisabler.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 It says to look for an updated version of Fsuipc so see if you can find one made for the open beta of fsx-se (...) The Fsx-se you use, version 10.0.63003.0 of fsx-se, is the open Beta version (...) An open beta version is a version that is unfinished. Put out there so users can help find the issues and report them back to dovetail. The FSX-SE Open Beta was made by Microsoft, not Dovetail. It seems to add some improvements, but is mainly equipped with telemetry tools for marketing (and guiding the development of) the upcoming new MS Flight Simulator. This is clearly, almost literally, written in the Open Beta description on Steam. When it has done it's purpose of gathering data from users, it will most likely vanish in thin air (this is not written in their description, but just what I suspect). I doubt Mr. Dowson will make an upgraded version of FSUIPC for this. But of course, I can be wrong. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anaismith Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 That doesn't achieve any more than just unplugging and re inserting the failing Saitek unit which is what they require you to do anyway. In my case it is the Multi Panel which needs re envigorating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Davis Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 I have FSX-SE working now again and FSUIPC4 is running as well. I don't have anything working on the panels yet and am looking for a good tutorial on how to get my various panels to work in FSX-SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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