Typer78

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I'm in Texas. I always get charged sales tax with games that I buy. And everything else I buy online too I get charged sales tax.

Yeah, I’m in the UK so there’s a good chance I’m wrong about how it works in the US. Does the advertised sticker price include sales tax though?

In the UK, advertised B2C prices usually include sales tax. I’m guessing it’s the same in Aus.

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Thanks Bus Driver, Airs don’t have discrete graphics cards, they just use the one integrated into the Intel CPU, so performance may be an issue. I’ve no experience with running flight sims on Macs though, so someone else will have to advise you there.

Assuming you got this 2017 model:

https://support.apple.com/kb/SP753?locale=en_US

you’ll have Intel HD Graphics 6000.

Though you may want to check which one you’ve got against this list:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201862

Check out devs discussing airports here @42:00

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An hour-long livestream interview with the devs answering questions from the community. Enjoy.

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Thanks, Robin!

 

If understood, the iPad won’t work, and what about MacBook? Bought one 3 years ago; will that work as well as a Microsoft type laptop? Would save a few $.

 

Thanks again—Bus Driver

Hey Bus Driver, you might find this helpful if you’re still interested in using your Mac:

https://flyawaysimulation.com/news/4665/

It’s a fairly old article, but that should mean that performance is less likely to be an issue with your relatively new machine. Is it a MacBook Air, a MacBook Pro or just plain MacBook?

Unfortunately, Apple products won't work. The hardware and operating system software are enough different to be incompatible. Xplane has a version for the Mac, I'm told, and Flight Gear Flight Simulator (a free, open source sim) has versions for the Mac and for Linux: https://www.flightgear.org/

 

But the various Microsoft programs are only designed to work with PCs.

Are you sure it won’t work Inuss? Apple Bootcamp allows Intel-based Macs to boot MS Windows: https://support.apple.com/boot-camp

I live near a major airport and know several RW full time commercial pilots. As well as some who fly for the Air National Guard. I've asked a few how they would feel with a VR mask on while flying.

 

Not a single pilot I asked responded they would ever be comfortable flying and not using their M-1 eyeballs!

Is that a thing anyone is actually proposing though? How many would be comfortably flying while knocking back a cold one in their undercrackers?

Jeepers, I wouldn’t feel at all comfortable driving a car with a VR headset on (or through a monitor for that matter). It doesn’t however follow that VR is therefore not suitable for sim racing.

VR is nice. IMHO, VR for flying at least is not simming.

…or to put it another way, “VR is nice, however IMHO, no _true_ Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”

I’d imagine that most flight sim enthusiasts would love to have a complete physical flight deck at home, it sounds truly awesome, but I would guess is unachievable for most. While it may (for many) not match up to having the physical hardware to prod and feel, VR gives those people with different priorities the opportunity to _simulate_ being in any and all possible cockpits. And that to me sounds like something to celebrate.

glasses dont take off

look at 3d glasses in movies

Why? That’s a very different technology, in a very different medium.

Why don’t you compare it to TrackIR, which at least is related to gaming?

It was about time everybody should be using them.

Most tvs come 3d ready

 

still, unless you are a 14 year old kid, (or about mentally) when you decide lets watch a Netflix movie, bring the popcorn... hey were are my 3d glasses"?

 

nope

 

you just sit and watch the movie

you dont tell your whatsapp friends that they are losing by not using 3d glasses and how its the new future, an immersive experience and so on

I agree, I don’t personally think that 3D in TV and film brings much to the storytelling experience, but I don’t begrudge those who might.

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VR has been a future possibility since the early 1990's, according to Wikipedia:

"The 1990s saw the first widespread commercial releases of consumer headsets. In 1992, for instance, Computer Gaming World predicted "affordable VR by 1994"."

VR is STILL searching for a mass market, and yet it STILL won't go away - it's like a fart in a spacesuit - and that's not because it's 'before it's time'. Other "next big thing" technologies have been and gone since the 1990's such as CD's, DVD's and 3D TV, and it's high time that VR got the message - we STILL don't want it.

Maybe VR will never take off, or maybe the technology just isn’t ready quite yet. Just because it hasn’t taken off yet, doesn’t mean it won’t. How long did it take for mobile phones to overtake landlines in popularity? How long has it taken for electric cars to gain a proper foothold and then start to outperform the internal combustion engine?

I’m sorry, but I just don’t follow your logic. If it’s not a good fit for you, don’t buy it, but why disparage it? Why do you want it to go away?

Hey Kapitan, yeah, I can understand your scepticism, but I can assure you I ain’t no GhostTown/VRDude. Having been super impressed with the FS2020 vids I’ve seen on YouTube, I’m here to have respectful chats, and as total flight sim noob, learn a thing or two from the veterans on this board. I do have a few years of experience in VR on other sims though, so would be very happy to have those chats with those who want them. Don’t worry though, I’m no zealot.

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… I do not want to be disconnected from the real world when I do it, because for one thing it is dangerous. When the phone rings and no one is around to answer, I hit Pause on the sim and pick up the phone -- it might be trivial, but it might be an emergency. Same with other interruptions that might or might not be important.

That’s fair, however headsets like the Valve Index (which I have) have speakers that sit a cm or two away from your ears, so you can still hear your surroundings. The Index is generally considered as having best in class sound, so I expect we’ll see more headsets adopting that design in the future.

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Hi, I just joined the forum to see what the chatter about FS2020 (and VR) was like. I’ve been hugely enjoying VR in racing sims and Elite Dangerous the past few years and excited to try it in FS2020 if it gets VR support.

It’s a bit disappointing to see the conversation getting so polarised, people have different priorities and so VR is going to be a better fit for some than others. No one is wrong, it’s all just subjective opinions. Different horses, different courses.