Hossfly68 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I'm using FSX Deluxe and have been trying to learn how to design AI flights. All seemed to be going well until I watched my AI fly towards the airport then just keep going. There are parking spots, there's ATC at the airport. I rebuilt the plan and sent the plane to a new airport. Same thing. What am I missing? I'm pretty sure my AI hasn't been hijacked, but I'm at a loss as to why they don't land. I even started all over and bult a plan where it would take off from KBFM (Mobile Downtown)and fly to KMOB (Mobile Regional) which is only 10miles away. Took off great, never turned, flew north toward Tennessee. IFR or VFR doesn't matter. Any hints? Tried with the stock Dc-3.. engine sound also came and went with that one Tried it with the FS9 version of Dee Waldron's Martin 404.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just ahint would be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Try a flightplan only from KBFM to KBFM, maybe this work. About 20 minutes the airplan should be back. Do you work with AIFP? happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 I hadn't thught about takeoff and departure at the same airport. I'll try. Yes, using AIFP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 You could do it for instance with my attachment. Maybe you have to substitute the aircraft with your aircraft. The airport is the stockairport and OK. In my case the 172 needed 35 minutes and landed safely.Aircraft_KBFM.txtAirports_KBFM.txtFlightPlans_KBFM.txt happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Wensley Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 If you make the starting airport the destination airport and vice versa, does the plane then take off ok? If so then it seems the airport is functional; most reasons for not landing that are airport-related are 1) parking space not big enough, 2) runway not actually connected by taxiways to parking. The other reason is aircraft related, in that planes designed to be flown do not all function as ai planes, and over-flying in a straight line is typical behaviour in this case. Try a plane that was made to be used as ai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 IMO you could learn something by eavesdropping the tower-AI aircraft communication, as some god-knows-what trigger apparently doesn't occur. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Tried it again last night using the stock 172 and a downloaded 182. One launched from MOB and one from BFM. One IFR, and one VFR. Both worked flawlessly. Tried it again with a couple of 404's, set up the same way. They flew away, out of viewing range. A few minutes later one was parked right next to me at KBFM. Just appeared at it's assigned arrival time. I can only assume the planes are off in some way for FSX since they were originally designed for 2002,modified for 2004, and adapted for FSX. I just need an FSX native Martin 404! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 I just need an FSX native Martin 404! I don't know if there is a FSX native 404. I used the ai404 from Calclassic and it works perfectly with my flightplan. I have installed SWK and so I can follow the aircraft with the traffic toolbox > traffic explorer from start to landing. happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 That's where I got the 404 that I'm using. Hmm, maybe I need an updated update to it? What's SWK? Gonna go look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Sorry I made a mistake. I meant "SDK" from fsdeveloper.com. The Software Development Kit (SDK) is a set of development tools which allow you to develop, create or modify content for the simulation. happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Ah! Yup, got that but wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. Just know it has to be installed to use ADE, which I haven't had time to sit down and learn either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 For instance you can follow your AI-aircrafts with this tool;-) but many other things! happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 If installed correctly, I should have a "Tools" heading in the menu? I removed, reinstalled, and ran the SDK config.exe file, but I'm not showing that option. I feel like a total rookie again. I was pretty good at fiddling around with FS5 years ago. FSX is a whole new ballgame to me since I got a computer that'll actually run it decently enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 update: haven't figured out how to get the SDK Traffic Tools thing to work yet, but listened to the ATC instructions to my Martins. they were repeatedly told to turn and to expedite their turns. they ignored instructions. I'm afraid I may have dual hijackings occurring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The installation of SDK especially the tools menu sometimes is a bit tricky. There is a manual for such problems at developer.com. ATC I never used so I can't say why the aircrafts ignore the instructions. If you are using the stockairports (no addons) the flights have to be OK!? happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 That's where I got the 404 that I'm using. Hmm, maybe I need an updated update to it? Are you using the flyable or the AI version from this page (AI File Four) ? Just asking, because Christian "Flatterman" states his version (the AI version) works. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 The flyable one. Perhaps this is the problem! More experiments this afternoon! Thanks gents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 F16Jockey_2 nailed the problem!!! both performed EXACTLY as programmed! thank you for your help fellas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 F16Jockey_2 nailed the problem!!! It’s Flatterman’s AIFP screenie that put me on the right track. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I didn't even realize that there were seperate models for it. After chores and honey do's are done today, I'll be working on figuring out the SDK install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Wensley Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Excuse me for pointing out the obvious, but I did say that the plane has to be capable of working as ai on page one here! Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossfly68 Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I had it working as AI before, just in 2004, or 2000, or FS98, or maybe FS5.. or I had this one, or another one. So many different versions of the program and of the planes over the years that I forget things. Like I said, I didn't realize that there were seperate models to it. But I appreciate all the help from everybody who replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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