Mithras Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 When I fly airliners I follow ATC and then pick up the ILS, when I fly VFR I join the pattern and land. But I’ve never used approach plates, they are daunting and I fly to so many places that just getting them all would be a big effort when I could be flying. So, I’m trying to develop a sort of generic approach plate … And I’ve begun with one where the VOR or NDB is on the airport grounds. I know this isn’t realistic, that’s what approach plates are for, this is moving up a step from just flying ‘right traffic’ into a regional airport. This is what I’ve tried so far, and seems to work: Fly to the VOR/NDB. Overfly it at 3000’ plus QFE and then turn to a heading +20 degrees that is opposite to your runway designated for landing. Set the timer and fly for 2 minutes while descending to 2000’ + QFE then make a gentle bank back toward your runway heading. Line up and land. Tried this out at Blackpool airport in the UK and worked very well, although it obviously does not take into account local conditions – this generic system might be a problem in mountainous terrain. On my outbound leg at Blackpool for example, I overflew Warton airfield at 2000’ which I guess the Blackpool approach plate does not do…. Anyway, it seems to work for me. My next task is to try the same for an airfield where the beacon is some distance beyond theaway the runway, but I think all I have to do there is shorten the outbound flight time to 1 and a half minutes or something. Are there any approaches where the beacon is in front of the runway as you approach? Ie you overfly the beacon, then have to overfly the airport, make your procedure turn and then come in to land....? - Paul Elliott [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Come and follow my recreation of this historic light here: HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ah, I've found one ...Coventry, DME approach rwy 05. You first overfly the beacon, then the airport, then make your procedure turn to land st the runway. http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadbasic/pamslight-EC1AF60134E264C30D2C89CE716FFD80/7FE5QZZF3FXUS/EN/Charts/AD/AIRAC/EG_AD_2_EGBE_8-2_en_2012-03-08.pdf A longer outbound time will be neccessary, and maybe less of an angle? +20 degrees for 3 and a half minutes may send you way off course. Maybe I should relate the angle of the outbound leg to the outbound time... - Paul Elliott [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Come and follow my recreation of this historic light here: HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvile Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You don't always need approach charts since 1000's of Jeppesen charts are already in FS9/FSX. Many have a procedure turn or transition from a VOR A FMC or GPS will fly these approaches that exist in the default database. This is EGBE Runway 05 (per your chart) with the CT procedure turn and DTY VOR transitions. You can slave the GPS to the planes autopilot and it will fly the approaches minus any altitude change which is done manually until established on a GS. http://s14.postimg.org/tz7gp7tmp/fsscr008.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/fl99nlj03/fsscr009.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ah interesting, I didn't know you could do that. For me, that might not be so useful though, I have a home cockpit build for a twin prop and use Remote Flight map on an iPad as my 'GPS'. Still, is a feature I never knew about. - Paul Elliott [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Come and follow my recreation of this historic light here: HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrussell Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Skyvectors has world wide approach plates. You can print them or use them online. Bruce https://skyvector.com/airports [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]I5-2500k@ 4.5Ghz/ 16 GB Gskill DDR3 1600/Nvidia GTX460 1GB// CH Yoke/Pedals/Throttle/TrackIR/Win7/ Fsx Deluxe SP1 & SP2 "Don't let fear or good judgment hold you back" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propjob Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Thanks for that great link to all thse foreign approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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