yensid Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hi all, I'm in the process of reinstall FSX (moving from boxed-FSX to FSX Steam), and wanted to take this opportunity to get a clear understanding of the drivers for the Saitek controls. I believe when I initially installed these drivers I made an error somewhere, so I'd appreciate some clarification. 1. Do I need to install FSUIPC for my Saitek controls to work? 2. When I go to the Saitek site and go to the downloads page, I enter in my product information and get two options - Download Software & Download Drivers. What is the difference? 2. I believe I have all the drivers downloaded, besides just running them, is there anything special I'd need to do? Any other general advice or feedback that could be offered, would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much! Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyDropbear Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Difference between the software and the drivers is that the software is what you use to program the keys on the joystick (if you do this within FSX then you don't need this) and the drivers are so Windows can recognise and hopefully use the device. Newer drivers and software can be found on their website, if that helps http://www.saitek.com/uk/down/drivers.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hurst Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 1. Do I need to install FSUIPC for my Saitek controls to work? 2. When I go to the Saitek site and go to the downloads page, I enter in my product information and get two options - Download Software & Download Drivers. What is the difference? 2. I believe I have all the drivers downloaded, besides just running them, is there anything special I'd need to do? 'Drivers' will be to make Windows understand how to address your Saitek device. Windows already knows, so you don't need them. 'Software' will be Saitek's button-programming tools and such like. You don't need them either. You don't need FSUIPC. In a nutshell, don't install anything from Saitek and everything will work fine. Once you're happy with that, think about what else you might want to do. If you want to do slightly advanced things like using the 'mode' switch on the yoke, then you will need the Saitek software or FSUIPC. There is a common view that the Saitek software introduces more problems than features (such as the 'phantom keypress' bug). MarkH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yensid Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 'Drivers' will be to make Windows understand how to address your Saitek device. Windows already knows, so you don't need them. 'Software' will be Saitek's button-programming tools and such like. You don't need them either. You don't need FSUIPC. In a nutshell, don't install anything from Saitek and everything will work fine. Once you're happy with that, think about what else you might want to do. If you want to do slightly advanced things like using the 'mode' switch on the yoke, then you will need the Saitek software or FSUIPC. There is a common view that the Saitek software introduces more problems than features (such as the 'phantom keypress' bug). Ok so down the road I can install FSUIPC in place of the Saitek drivers and key-mapping software? But for now I can just plug and play? Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double J Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ok so down the road I can install FSUIPC in place of the Saitek drivers and key-mapping software? But for now I can just plug and play? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yensid Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yup. Thank you!! Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagledriver Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ok so down the road I can install FSUIPC in place of the Saitek drivers and key-mapping software? But for now I can just plug and play? Don't use Saitek Drivers, use FSUIPC4, you won't regret it. Corsair C70 Corsair AX850 Asus z77 Sabertooth Intel i7 3770K 4.4GHz Liquid cooled with Corsair H110 16 GB nVidia GTX 680 Corsair Dominator Ram 256 GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD Windows 7 Ultimate all running FSX on it's own 256 GB Samsung 840 Pro and a WD 1TB Black for Back Up. Finally something that will run FSX decently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Haukland Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I cant get my panels to work with FSX.SE but it works perfect with my boxed fsx de luxe ed with acc and sp1 + 2 and fsuipc ( regged version ) works there, but not in my fsx.se version, how can i get my saitek panels to work with it, thank you. http://www.speedtest.net/result/4450194567.png Asus Z170-A-1151 - intel i7-6700K@4GHz - Asus ROG NVidia GTX 1050 TI Strix 4GB - 32GB HyperX DDR4@2400 MHz - Corsair CM750-750W - Corsair H80i v2 Watercooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hurst Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I cant get my panels to work with FSX.SE but it works perfect with my boxed fsx de luxe ed with acc and sp1 + 2 and fsuipc ( regged version ) works there, but not in my fsx.se version, how can i get my saitek panels to work with it, thank you. I think the Saitek installation program makes an entry in exe.xml (and maybe dll.xml, or both). It seems likely that these are in a different place for the FSX Steam Edition. You will need to fix this manually, or you could run the Saitek panel program manually. (I can't be more specific as I don't have the Steam Edition.) As a first experiment, does the Saitek panel test program work? If so, it is surely the exe.xml problem. You could also try using SPAD (fstools.weebly.com) instead of the Saitek program - again, you can run it manually to test whether it works. MarkH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Haukland Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, i have the lines in the exe.xml, but it wont run it, the test program for each panel works fine, manual launch works but freezes up after 5 mins of use. This however works very well with my fsx installation tho, but not my fsx.se, so i compared the lines on the two, its the same, and not working in fsx.se but its working in fsx, so i have tried everything. And yes i have registered fsuipc installed, on both, but still no go on fsx.se http://www.speedtest.net/result/4450194567.png Asus Z170-A-1151 - intel i7-6700K@4GHz - Asus ROG NVidia GTX 1050 TI Strix 4GB - 32GB HyperX DDR4@2400 MHz - Corsair CM750-750W - Corsair H80i v2 Watercooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yensid Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Don't use Saitek Drivers, use FSUIPC4, you won't regret it. Will FSUIPC4 also handle the Saitek panels (Radio Panel, Switch Panel, and Multi Panel)? The Radio and Multi panels did not come on when I started FSX without installing any drivers. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hurst Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Will FSUIPC4 also handle the Saitek panels (Radio Panel, Switch Panel, and Multi Panel)? The Radio and Multi panels did not come on when I started FSX without installing any drivers. No, you need a driver for the panels. It can be SPAD, though, not the Saitek one. MarkH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yensid Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 No, you need a driver for the panels. It can be SPAD, though, not the Saitek one. I installed the SPAD drivers and double click the SPAD.exe before launching FSX. All of my panels light up, but do not come on when I start FSX. Is there something additional I need to do? Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hurst Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I installed the SPAD drivers and double click the SPAD.exe before launching FSX. All of my panels light up, but do not come on when I start FSX. Is there something additional I need to do? No, if SPAD is running they should work. MarkH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yensid Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 No, if SPAD is running they should work. I think I figured out the issue - I needed to manually install SimConnect after installing the Steam version. I was unaware of that. Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz / Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler / G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory / EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card / Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply / Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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