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Thread: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

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    Default TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    Okay I'm trying to figure out how to complete this project and have a couple of questions for afficionado's...

    Cougar in the movie was part of Maverick's "VF-1" squadron, and on his flight suit he has the same logo as on Maverick's Tomcat.

    Yet in the movie you see his aircraft in Iceman's VFA-213 markings, with the aircraft number appearing as "203".

    I'm wondering what the consensus is on whether the aircraft should sport Maverick's squadron markings or Iceman's squadron markings...

    Should I do both?

    Also I only have the number 2, and not the number 3, I'm wondering if I should take liberty and change the number to 204 seeing as I have all the graphics for that...

    i.e. in the model kit I have 114, 104 and 102. Haven't found a good squadron number font that matches the movie yet...

    Any input would be appreciated.

    Also does anyone know the "LT. JG. xxxxxx xxxxxxxx" name for "Sundown" played by Clarence Gilyard in the movie. I've scoured the web and all the info I have and it's the one name I don't have for the movie.

    I have...

    LT. PETE 'MAVERICK' MITCHELL
    LT. JG. NICK 'GOOSE' BRASHAW
    LT. BILL 'COUGAR' CORTELI
    LT. JG. SAM 'MERLIN' WELLS
    LT. TOM 'ICEMAN' KAZANSKY
    LT. J.G. RON 'SLIDER' KERNER

    AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE FULL NAME OF

    LT. JG. 'SUNDOWN'

    ALSO OTHER FULL NAMES THAT WOULD BE NICE ARE:

    HOLLYWOOD/WOLFMAN

    One final question, should I just remove Goose's I.D. on the aircraft that Maverick flys with Sundown? or just have "Sundown" painted on the RIO's position?

    Appreciate all the input...

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    impactvision Guest

    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    Okay here's my final question...
    What number should I use for Cougar's plane?

    A) 112 being that Cougar is in the same squadron as Maverick

    B) 102 the alternate number on the decal sheet for the testors model

    C) 203 not sure if I can do this yet - This was the number that appeared in Top Gun but I don't have an actual graphic for it.



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    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    > Cougar in the movie was part of Maverick's "VF-1" squadron
    Depends on where the patch was on his flightsuit...
    If on Left Shoulder, it is for his current assignment.
    If on Right Shoulder, it is for a unit in Combat.


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    I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Are you doing a model kit or repainting a flightsim airplane. If you are repainting, then you can use AmarilloUSAF font for lettering. You can find that font by doing a search on Google.

    My generation grew up and went into flying because of Top Gun. I'm embarrassed to say I don't have any answers.



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    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    >> Cougar in the movie was part of Maverick's "VF-1" squadron
    >Depends on where the patch was on his flightsuit...
    >If on Left Shoulder, it is for his current assignment.
    >If on Right Shoulder, it is for a unit in Combat.
    >
    >
    Actually the squadron patch is not on the arm, it's on the right breast, at least the RAAF is like that and also in the movie.

    Interesting side note tho... Cougar in the movie is seen flying his F-14 with a Top Gun Patch already on his left shoulder... Hmmm, seems he already did the school...

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    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    >I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Are you doing a
    >model kit or repainting a flightsim airplane. If you are
    >repainting, then you can use AmarilloUSAF font for
    >lettering. You can find that font by doing a search on
    >Google.
    >
    >My generation grew up and went into flying because of Top
    >Gun. I'm embarrassed to say I don't have any answers.

    Thanks for the info on the font, will look it up.

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    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?

    Being a recently former Navy guy, I'll take a look at the movie and try to answer as much of the questions as I can. Navy unit patches appear on the left shoulder. If an aviator has flown in combat, the patch from the unit he flew in combat with appears on the right shoulder. If he has flown in combat with multiple units, it is the most recent which appears. The name patch appears on the left breast. The right breast is a bit more open to interpretation, but is generally a patch for the aircraft flown by the aviator.

    So if the Top Gun patch was seen on Cougar's shoulder, that is sort of correct, as that was the unit he was flying with. Though technically students at Top Gun are TAD to the school, so they retain their assignments with their original units.

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    Command patch goes over right breast pocket, not on any sleeve....

    TRADITION...put the last comact action commmand on left sleeve and current command on right sleeve. But I don't think you'd get away with it now a days...

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    Default RE: TOP GUN Question... Maverick or Iceman's Squadron Markings for Cougar?


    It may be that way in the RAF or Canadian Military,
    BUT, in the US Military, current assignment is on LEFT shoulder,
    and if a Veteran of a Combat unit, the unit you served with is
    on the RIGHT shoulder... I spent 9 years in the service, and
    that included 3 tours in combat...

    How many years did you spend
    in the service, and with what unit?

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    Hi there

    I have the DVD of the movie see if I have the time tonite I will check the full name of "hollywood wollfman"

    hello from Hong Kong

    JJ

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