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    Default ATR 42/72 Eurowings by Aerosoft

    Payware - the main panel bitmaps (3 in all for the different models that come with the package) have many black dots and a terrible representation of the electrical heating elements with ragged window edges. The rest of the panel and functionality is well up with payware standards but the bitmaps are very untidy and make the whole 2D cockpit look rather worse than many freeware panels. There also is no 3D cockpit which I think is pretty poor for paywaree in FS9. Anyone else share these views? or am I out on a limb... oh I did try their support forum but so far all I can get is German language.

    I know I can play with the bitmaps in MS Picture-It-Pro to try to improve on the quality of the main bitmaps but for payware I really feel I should not have to go through this process.

    Pity because the rest of the a/c is very well put together just a slight disappointment on those bitmaps has spoiled the US$25 "investment" for me.

    Dave

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    Default RE: ATR 42/72 Eurowings by Aerosoft

    http://www.digital-aviation.de/ewpforum/
    forums in english are down the page a bit.

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    >>just a slight disappointment on those bitmaps has spoiled the US$25 "investment" for me.

    it's ok, you've just helped a WORLD-ECONOMY by US$25 :)


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    Default RE: ATR 42/72 Eurowings by Aerosoft

    >http://www.digital-aviation.de/ewpforum/
    >forums in english are down the page a bit.

    AH-SO - I get 1 out of 10 for observation in missing the English version on that forum and I feel a lot better knowing I am proping up the economy again with my 25 bucks.

    Have registered with that forum but still waiting for the e-mail activation to get in there. Funny these things are usually pretty much instantaneous.

    Thanks for pointing this out.

    Dave

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    Dave
    Thanks for the headsup on this one,I was contemplating buying it,but after getting burned bigtime with P*S(the developer that you're not allowed to mention here)I think I'll wait for the ATR from Dreamfleet instead,those guys at least know what they're doing.Btw,if you need a german translator any time in the future,I'll be happy to help you.
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    Hi Dave,

    I find in wierd that you think the bitmaps are poor quality, I have had the ATR for a while now, and I love the panel, although I cant do a quick check now cause I am at work, errrr looking for software updates ;).

    I will have a look tonight, but I just cant remember seeing anything bad with them.

    Maybe you could post a screenie show the poor areas?.

    I do agree with you about the lack of VC, but the same guys who made this one are doing the Flight1 one, so I doubt we will get a VC update, I reckon they would be to busy on the Flight1 ATR, shame

    Cheers

    Dan.

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    Thanks for the headsup on this one,I was contemplating
    buying it,but after getting burned bigtime with P*S(the
    developer that you're not allowed to mention here)I think
    I'll wait for the ATR from Dreamfleet instead,those guys at
    least know what they're doing

    Hi,

    I think that the ATR is a very good plane, and the shortcomings described above are outwieght by the other features in it.

    To dismiss it because of those is a little unfair, I brought it and I think its great, it is a very complete package with lots of extras.

    Check out this review > http://www.fscentre.com/index.php?op...d=142&Itemid=3

    Also "I'll wait for the ATR from Dreamfleet instead,those guys at
    least know what they're doing", the guys who are developing the ATR for Flight1 are the same guys who did the Aerosoft ATR.

    Dan.

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    Default RE: ATR 42/72 Eurowings by Aerosoft

    Thanks for the offer for translation but I have found the English version (why is it we always expect the rest of the world to talk and speak English I wonder?) :)....

    I'd love to be able to post a screenie but having decided to spend an hour or so obliterating the black speckles with MS Picture It Pro I have managed to get it looking a lot better. Unfortunately I did not make copies of the defaults (naughty!). Incidentally I am now informed by the producers that the black speckled effect is supposed to be "dirt" as they were told by a real pilot that he had never flown in any aircraft with clean windows.... mmmmm ok if you like dirty widows perhaps, but not for me. Ah well I guess we don't all drive the same cars either.

    Yes I agree the rest of the aircraft is superb - as I had mentioned in the original post, I think.

    "Also "I'll wait for the ATR from Dreamfleet instead,those guys at
    least know what they're doing", the guys who are developing the ATR for Flight1 are the same guys who did the Aerosoft ATR." Well I hope they read this and get rid of the black speckles and tidy up the window edges whilst they are at it for the "new" version :).

    As for the link to that review I just saw under the Pro's and Con's a mention of... well here they are take a special note of items 1 and 3 under the "Con's" - seems I'm not alone after all!

    Proís
    1 Highly functional cockpit
    2 Fully functioning TCAS
    3 Good flight dynamics
    4 Attention to detail in external models
    5 Large amount of versions and liveries
    6 Extensive flight deck manual
    7 Configuration and load editors
    8 Flight planner (Eurowings only)
    0 Excellent frame rates

    Conís
    1 No VC
    2 Some mistakes in aircraft systems
    3 Visual appearance of internal cockpit views needs a little improvement
    4 Missing V-speed charts (can be found at http://www.christian-haupt.de/flusi/acdocs.htm)
    5 No FMC manual (can be found at http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Downlo...7_manuals.html)
    6 Slowly reacting AP


    Dave

    :)

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    Incidentally I am now informed by the producers
    >that the black speckled effect is supposed to be "dirt" as
    >they were told by a real pilot that he had never flown in
    >any aircraft with clean windows.... mmmmm ok if you like
    >dirty widows perhaps, but not for me. Ah well I guess we
    >don't all drive the same cars either.

    LMAO, DIRT?, are they having a laugh LOL, I'll have to check this out when I get home.

    Dan.

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    Default RE: ATR 42/72 Eurowings by Aerosoft

    Just to clarify a few things:

    1. The F1 ATR is a complete, new product, done from scratch.

    2. While some of the development team of the F1 ATR is the same, not all of it is. I am doing all of the graphics.

    3. I can do no better with the representation of those heater element wires; they will appear jaggy. We're dealing with 1024 x 768 x 72dpi resolution here, and those graphics MUST be "aliased" as they appear over transparency. For this reason I have left them out of the main panel views.

    Anyway, here is a shot of the master graphic I created of the main panel. From this I created the various main panel views we will have.

    http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Previe...N_TEMPLATE.jpg

    Here's a shot of one of the two landing view panels:
    Notice the missing heater element wires. As they are a non-fuctional element within FS, I'd rather not have them if they cannot look good. I think the rest of the graphics more than makes up for not having them. ;-)

    http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Previe...9-21-03/L2.jpg

    Here, you see I did add them, but they really do not look so good, and I will probably remove them, as they will look even worse when you look at the "right" cockpit view where they would need to be smaller, and even more jaggy.

    http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Previews/72/ATR_LEFT.jpg

    This baby is being programmed from scratch as we speak, and this is a screen shot of the actual gauge, which was created from a photo of the real thing.

    http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/Previe...9-5-03/FMC.jpg

    You can see more (but in lower resolution) here:

    http://atr.flight1.net/

    :-)

    Regards,
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