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Hi all,

 

Just a quick post to warn any potential buyers not to buy the the Microsoft/Asobo flight simulator. It is a total disaster. Sim update 5 has broken it completely. I removed the sim from my system and tried a reinstall and guess what, it won't even reinstall. The only possible way forward is to reinstall windows 10 from scratch and try again but even that might not work. So please be careful people, this sim is a total waste of money.

 

So it is back to FSX and my beloved FS9 which I will continue to use indefinitely. Microsoft and Asobo, you are a waste of space.

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You need to report this on the official forums here: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/c/bugs-and-issues/performance/211

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Hi all,

 

Just a quick post to warn any potential buyers not to buy the the Microsoft/Asobo flight simulator. It is a total disaster. Sim update 5 has broken it completely. I removed the sim from my system and tried a reinstall and guess what, it won't even reinstall. The only possible way forward is to reinstall windows 10 from scratch and try again but even that might not work. So please be careful people, this sim is a total waste of money.

 

So it is back to FSX and my beloved FS9 which I will continue to use indefinitely. Microsoft and Asobo, you are a waste of space.

 

Ok, you talked me into it. I'll stick with FS9. lol

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Ya I would agree at this point if your not using an Xbox and have game pass it probably should be avoided until things start getting ironed out.

 

In comparison (and I am not saying I am going back to xplane). I used xplane prior to this sim and kept watch on there forums. Over the course of there updates including the switch to Vulcan I never saw any where near the degree of complaints bugs.

 

Yes I know FS2020 is far more complex than xplane but on the other hand the resources that MS/ASOBO has at there disposable to get this thing right far exceeds that of Laminar/xplane.

 

Something is vary wrong here and I think its getting to the point that this sims reputation will start to precede itself leading to drastically reduced sales and eventual demise well before the ten year promise of development that ASOBO has planed

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Thank you for the reply kind sir. I was really just venting my spleen at the developers. As more and more people turn away the reputation of microsoft/asobo with crash. I have tried all the fixes known to the internet over the last few days and have reached my limit. The very best of luck of to all those who can make it work,

But I am done with it.

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“The very best of luck of to all those who can make it work”

 

Thank you :)

 

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Thank you for the reply kind sir. I was really just venting my spleen at the developers. As more and more people turn away the reputation of microsoft/asobo with crash. I have tried all the fixes known to the internet over the last few days and have reached my limit. The very best of luck of to all those who can make it work,

But I am done with it.

 

I feel your pain. I was in the same boat as well. Uninstalled it, then could not get it even start, despite numerous fixies etc.

 

Only when the hot fix was released could I get it to start the download.

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Hi all,

 

Just a quick post to warn any potential buyers not to buy the the Microsoft/Asobo flight simulator. It is a total disaster. Sim update 5 has broken it completely. I removed the sim from my system and tried a reinstall and guess what, it won't even reinstall. The only possible way forward is to reinstall windows 10 from scratch and try again but even that might not work. So please be careful people, this sim is a total waste of money.

 

So it is back to FSX and my beloved FS9 which I will continue to use indefinitely. Microsoft and Asobo, you are a waste of space.

Even though I finally have gotten my '2020 to work for more than just a few minutes at a time (now I only suffer CTD only occasionally so far), I would agree. I have used Microsoft Flight Simulator since way back in FS4 days (that's pre - Information Superhighway) and I have never had even the remotest trouble as I have had with FS2020. I am planning on going back to FSX until Asobo starts to get their......Stuff together.

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Hi all,

 

Just a quick post to warn any potential buyers not to buy the the Microsoft/Asobo flight simulator. It is a total disaster. Sim update 5 has broken it completely. I removed the sim from my system and tried a reinstall and guess what, it won't even reinstall. The only possible way forward is to reinstall windows 10 from scratch and try again but even that might not work. So please be careful people, this sim is a total waste of money.

 

So it is back to FSX and my beloved FS9 which I will continue to use indefinitely. Microsoft and Asobo, you are a waste of space.

 

MSFS is a great sim and has worked for me from day 1 and every update has not caused any issues. Do not believe everything you read on the Internet.

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Sorry, I have to disagree. MFS works fine on my mid-range computer. I get an occasional stutter when starting a flight, but beyond that, I have good scenery and acceptable. Caveat, my simulator is stock other than the Working Title CJ4 amd G1000. I had to change a few control assignments but nothing I couldn't handle. My scenery is fine, and my fps a very acceptable 45 yo 60. I fly mostly ga aircraft low and slow. Nothing is overclocked.
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No posts in these forums from the Original Poster asking for help, yet gripes about MSFS. Maybe if you asked the appropriate questions people get you to a better spot with your sim. How do we know you even own it? Only see posts from you about FS9. Me think just another fanboy here with wanting to gripe to the wrong forum about a sim they can't run on their weak machine.
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Hi all,

 

Just a quick post to warn any potential buyers not to buy the the Microsoft/Asobo flight simulator. It is a total disaster. Sim update 5 has broken it completely. I removed the sim from my system and tried a reinstall and guess what, it won't even reinstall. The only possible way forward is to reinstall windows 10 from scratch and try again but even that might not work. So please be careful people, this sim is a total waste of money.

 

So it is back to FSX and my beloved FS9 which I will continue to use indefinitely. Microsoft and Asobo, you are a waste of space.

 

I've installed Windows 10 ONE TIME and installed MSFS ONE TIME. Both work just fine. It is a waste of time do a "fresh" install.

 

I gave up that re-install from scratch crap long ago.

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Hi Mark

Guess you are like me, and drop in here occasionally to see if things have improved any.

Afraid not, it is the same shambles it was when released. It works for some, heavens knows how, but the majority of us are expected to be beta testers.

Eventually, Microsoft will have to step in and develop it properly, that is if they don't just drop it like Flight and FSX.

Geoff

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Hi Mark

Guess you are like me, and drop in here occasionally to see if things have improved any.

Afraid not, it is the same shambles it was when released. It works for some, heavens knows how, but the majority of us are expected to be beta testers.

Eventually, Microsoft will have to step in and develop it properly, that is if they don't just drop it like Flight and FSX.

Geoff

Is this to me or the OP? Both Mark.

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IF you have (a) a reasonably good computer system and (b) patience and persistence when problems arise, go for it. MSFS2020 is without a doubt the most advanced flight sim ever created, and is becoming more so with time. If you don't, then best to stay away at least for a while. This is a 10-year project (as announced when it was released a year ago) and is not for everyone, but the rewards are fantastic if you stay with it and work through the issues.

 

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Notice people that gripe NEVER post computer specs? Week PCs perhaps?

 

Bug thread on official forum is now approaching 500 post. Makes me wonder if you are actually trying to use this software as a flight sim or if your just flying between the buildings from an outside view in NYC with an xbox controller. If the later then ya the sim works fine.

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I'm not sure if the previous post is directed to me, but for the record, I fly it as a simulator with full cockpit controls, ATC, the works. I do not own X-Box.

 

Let me say two more things. First the MSFS users who are enjoying good results with the latest update -- I am one of them -- need to appreciate that many people are not, and this should concern everybody. Second, the reverse is also true: those who are having major problems need to acknowledge that many others are not having problems. What everybody should want to know is, why such different experiences? It is a bit perplexing, though I think the differences in computer systems and setups account for some of it.

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Bug thread on official forum is now approaching 500 post. Makes me wonder if you are actually trying to use this software as a flight sim or if your just flying between the buildings from an outside view in NYC with an xbox controller. If the later then ya the sim works fine.

 

For your info - did a flight in Carenado's Seminol today - nearly two hours of flying from Block Island, RI to Linden, New Jersey, on ULTRA passing New York City, real weather, all settings on ULTRA. Guess what - no issues. I'm using this as a sim and not the other way you were wondering - so guess that removes your little theory how I am using this program....

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For your info - did a flight in Carenado's Seminol today - nearly two hours of flying from Block Island, RI to Linden, New Jersey, on ULTRA passing New York City, real weather, all settings on ULTRA. Guess what - no issues. I'm using this as a sim and not the other way you were wondering - so guess that removes your little theory how I am using this program....

 

I, also have had no problems running this simulator. I have had only one CTD since Christmas when I received this software as a Christmas gift. And that was in January. It has been very stable for me but I have an above average computer with a nice online bandwidth. Maybe that has something to do with your experience. People trying to run this software on less than adequate computer hardware/and or internet connection speeds .

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I, also have had no problems running this simulator. I have had only one CTD since Christmas when I received this software as a Christmas gift. And that was in January. It has been very stable for me but I have an above average computer with a nice online bandwidth. Maybe that has something to do with your experience. People trying to run this software on less than adequate computer hardware/and or internet connection speeds .

 

I find that hard to believe oh wait, depends how often you ran the program I guess please, let's be honest OK?

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I find that hard to believe oh wait, depends how often you ran the program I guess please, let's be honest OK?

 

I run the sim every day for more than 3 hours at a time and have had one CTD.

 

I have had the sim since about a week after first release.

 

I have had some issues, but not related to CTD. My issues were answered either by Zendesk or here and was back up and running with minimal down time. None of my issues were a result of the MSFS software. It was other things that needed attention or an adjustment in the options.

 

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I find that hard to believe oh wait, depends how often you ran the program I guess please, let's be honest OK?

 

I don't care what you believe, or don't believe. I stand by my statement.

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