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Thread: This Update Has Been a Total Disaster!

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    It's the Team Asobo's latest dance craze: Two steps forward - One step back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger1962
    Why oh why can't flight simmers look before they leap?
    Don't know how you did that Mac, but that was Tim's quote, not mine!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mac6737 View Post
    Tiger, if you're talking to me, the meat of my lengthy post was hardly blue knobs that I didn't know how to disable. The problem, as I said, is that I no longer have a playable flight simulator. Nothing in the 2 links you include is responsive to that signal fact.

    Others, apparently, have not suffered such total malfunction, and maybe these latest problems will be fixed in time. But I don't think you can chide people for "leaping without looking" when they accept a mandatory update to a program for which they paid $119 or so.

    Maybe Asobo should look before they release!
    Glad you got the blue knobs sorted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    OK, at this point in time some folks justifiably regard the latest MSFS update as a disaster, while others think it is fabulous. To some degree, this seems to happen after every update, though in this case the comments appear more extreme -- as in "TOTAL disaster" -- even if the trolls are discounted. I personally have had a foot in both camps. I spent over two frustrating days trying to get the update installed, with the process stalling over and over as files tried repeatedly to load but without success; each time that happened, I re-started and it resumed, only to stall again.Note: this was with an empty Community folder; no addons. The last straw was when the upload reached 99% and stalled with only a couple of MB remaining-- at that point my wife heard language she had never heard me use before! The solution, finally, was to go into OneStore and delete the last couple of update folders, forcing them to reload. That did the trick and the sim was able to start.

    This transformed my experience from a disaster to almost unimaginable joy. I am seeing performance unlike anything I've had up to now in MSFS (and light years beyond any earlier sim). With pretty nearly all settings at ultra, numerous addons, real weather, live real-world traffic, Bing data on, and the frame rate limit at 60, I am seeing absolutely smooth flying with 50-60 FPS (occasionally dropping into the 40s) in the TBM930 everywhere I fly, including some of the most scenery-dense areas such as London, New York, LA, Washington DC, and other places notorious as frame rate killers. The graphics look terrific. It is hard to believe I am not dreaming.

    That said, it is really unfortunate that so many people are having problems, and I hope that most of these will soon be resolved -- hopefully with the soon-to-be-released patch --so that everyone can enjoy this incredible simulator.

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    I flew over New York last week (SU4) using the Icon plane, took a tour round the surrounding area and landed on the water close to the Statue of Liberty. I was getting a nice smooth 35 fps with very little stutter and the photogrammetry scenery looked superb.

    Tried the same trip today with the Icon and it looks just awful, most of the buildings are popping into view as I look around and look nowhere near as good as before.
    The draw distance is now hopeless (I have every setting I can set to high or ultra apart from Render at 100) and flying NW over the East river with central park in front of me I can just see a desert with no buildings rendering past the Hudson river. Last week I had buildings out to the horizon.
    London is just as bad, looks like a desert, anything over 2 miles away is replace by a sandy flat landscape into which scenery magically appears as you get closer.

    So for me SU5 = 5 more fps but totally immersion breaking scenery redrawing with lower quality textures and over exposed whiteout clouds.

    Are you seeing buildings out to the horizon and not popping in and out of existence when you fly over New York and London?
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    That's what I'm experiencing. Windows updated, GPU driver updated, everything maxed out, even tried reducing settings to see if that would help, but everything pops in and out around the aircraft. London is the worst. Also, the textures look blurred as if my glasses need cleaning. tried that too!
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    I haven't changed my Medium graphics settings since the update/hotfix (and a Windows preview update which "fixes" gameplay apparently) and yes I'm getting higher FPS in some places but not all, and I'm seeing objects like wind turbines popping in but not buildings or trees.
    Maybe it's worth lowering the graphics settings one notch for test purposes?
    I also have MSFS on Xbox Series X and that's full autogen from horizon to horizon with no popping at all - yes I smell a rat here too and all we can do is get onto the official forums and play hell about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC1 View Post
    I flew over New York last week (SU4) using the Icon plane, took a tour round the surrounding area and landed on the water close to the Statue of Liberty. I was getting a nice smooth 35 fps with very little stutter and the photogrammetry scenery looked superb.

    Tried the same trip today with the Icon and it looks just awful, most of the buildings are popping into view as I look around and look nowhere near as good as before.
    The draw distance is now hopeless (I have every setting I can set to high or ultra apart from Render at 100) and flying NW over the East river with central park in front of me I can just see a desert with no buildings rendering past the Hudson river. Last week I had buildings out to the horizon.
    London is just as bad, looks like a desert, anything over 2 miles away is replace by a sandy flat landscape into which scenery magically appears as you get closer.

    So for me SU5 = 5 more fps but totally immersion breaking scenery redrawing with lower quality textures and over exposed whiteout clouds.

    Are you seeing buildings out to the horizon and not popping in and out of existence when you fly over New York and London?
    As a matter of fact, just this morning with the SU5 update and the hotfix installed, I flew the TBM930 from KLGA over to the Verazanno Narrows bridge, up the Hudson River with side trips to view the Manhattan buildings at close range, and up to the George Washington Bridge. The trip was picture-perfect with FPS at 50-60 (locked at 60), smooth as silk, no popping, and certainly no loss of quality in textures. I have graphics settings on Ultra, terrain and objects level of detail both set at 200, photogrammetry on, and live AI traffic. And yes, buildings visible to the horizon. It looked terrific! I have also flown over Washington DC, London and Paris today, same result.

    Why some of us are having such different experiences post-update, is hard to explain, but it must relate to computer systems, settings, and possibly other factors. I wish I knew the answer, and I hope one will be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    Why some of us are having such different experiences post-update, is hard to explain, but it must relate to computer systems, settings, and possibly other factors.
    It certainly would be helpful if people posting here, especially people posting about performance issues, would post their system specs in the space below.

    Without knowing a poster's system specs, discussion of performance is kinda pointless.

    Some of the most prolific posters here still don't post their specs; I find that puzzling.
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    Agreed. I had posted mine earlier, but here it is again. Alienware Aurora R11, Intel Core i7-10700F, GeForce TX2080 Super.

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    One thing for sure is there can be little debated now as to if ASOBO has been dumbing down the sim to fit Xbox. Its pretty obvious they are/did and then had the nerve to call them optimizations because it gave the PC a few more FPS.

    I noticed this trend with the very first SU and was called among other things a "conspiracy theorist".

    My PC upgrade was well over due and I don't regret it. But for people that went out and dumped money into high end PCs just for this game only to find out they just could have waited and bought an Xbox because that is quality everyone is going to get, yes they are angry.

    All of these hard feelings could have been avoided if MS/ASOBO had just waited a year and released on both platforms at the same time. Then us PC guys would have never known the difference. If that had happened I suspect then most would be singing its praise and saying things like. "Ya a lot of things are buggy but they just released it. Give it a some time and it will get fixed"
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    “But for people that went out and dumped money into high end PCs just for this game only to find out they just could have waited and bought an Xbox because that is quality everyone is going to get, yes they are angry“

    I’m not angry
    I did the big upgrade last year because of MSFS and even with the bugs.. I’m lovin’ it! The big update messed it up for most of us but they soon sorted most things out with the hotfix and personally I think it’s better than ever. In VR it’s so easy to forget I’m not in a real aircraft LOL

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