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    THE MYSTERY OF THE COMMUNITY FOLDER
    Every since day one when I fell under the spell of FS 2020 I realized that if I ever want to advance my knowledge of this flight simulator that life begins with the understanding of the COMMUNITY folder.
    The mystery started on day one when I was doing an investigation on the different ways get better performance by reinstalling the program to different locations instead of the default ones. It said something like moving all of your stuff to the COMMUNITY folder and having the other stuff at different fuzzy locations.
    I decided against all that since I did not understand every thing it was saying. I will let the computer do what it wants.
    So the computer installed very thing and it was up and running and I was a happy camper.
    Just like every one else I started thinking about making it better by adding on.
    When I was researching the ins and outs of adding on the very first thing that came up was that COMMUNITY folder and I started to look for it. I looked and looked and figured that it must be over at Oak island someplace.
    Being frustrated is common place for me in this computer world so I decided to give up for now and get back to flying.
    I still had this adding on bug in my head and I found myself at flightsim.com.
    This David fella told me to look at
    C:\Users\CatsRule\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community
    Looks like the programmers were trying to drill down to the center of the Earth.
    I fired up the File Explorer and found only “C:\Users\” and it stopped there. The only thing below that was 3 folders, “15807”, “Default”, and “Public”
    I must have the computer from hell.
    During all this time I came up with a bad file or some thing that killed my computer and I called upon Microsoft to fix it.
    They assigned an angel from God to me and he had to do a whole bunch of stuff and he fixed every thing.
    I watched him work and it was amazing.
    While he was working I noticed he added a couple of folders ( C:\Flight Simulator\.
    Under Simulator was two folders called Community and Official.
    Community was empty and under Official was another folder called “OneStore”.
    Inside OneStore I found all of my airplanes and a bunch of other stuff.
    I figure that he just made My life easier.
    Could one of you guys that know what you are doing tell me how I can use this new location to add new stuff to my simulator like the Washington scenery that my friend JohnJohn gave me, airplanes and other stuff.
    I think I gave you enough info and if you do this for me I will remember your kindness forever.
    VFRguy

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    Glen, I am going to try to say this in as inoffensive way possible.
    You don't strike me as the kind of guy who has mastered his computer. You also don't strike me as a person who takes direction very well.
    If my assessment is correct, you are just asking for trouble to start putting addons into FS2020. The sim is still being substantially revised on a frequent basis, and many of the addons are using conjecture rather than documented knowledge to fabricate their addon. The SDK isn't even complete yet. Many of these addons will cause you immense grief if you don't know what you are doing, and clean your community folder before each update. I don't have any addons at this point. I am not saying they can't be deployed successfully, but I am warning you that you will become one of those chronic disgruntled if you don't know what you are doing.
    I think you would be far better served, to master and enjoy the stock aircraft and scenery, until a more final SDK is finished. At some point, it will become possible to add addons with little problem, but I don't think we are there yet for folks like yourself! You were warned!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VFRguy View Post
    Could one of you guys that know what you are doing tell me how I can use this new location to add new stuff to my simulator like the Washington scenery that my friend JohnJohn gave me, airplanes and other stuff.
    If you have the Microsoft Store version, your Community folder will be here:

    C:\Users\VFR GUY'S USERNAME\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community

    If you have the Steam version, your Community folder will be here:

    C:\Users\VFR GUY'S USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Packages\Community

    Once you've located it, right-click on it and select Create a shortcut. Move the shortcut to your desktop so you can then open the Community folder directly.
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    I hear you loud and clear.
    Why do you think I held off adding stuff to my FS?
    I waited to hear from guys like you.
    I have been down that dusty road before and I don't want to repeat that again.
    You are wrong about one thing... I can do what I am told.
    If I go a stray I can rely you to set me straight.
    I guess I will not get that disrespectful Washington Monument fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plainsman View Post
    Glen, I am going to try to say this in as inoffensive way possible.
    You don't strike me as the kind of guy who has mastered his computer. You also don't strike me as a person who takes direction very well.
    If my assessment is correct, you are just asking for trouble to start putting addons into FS2020. The sim is still being substantially revised on a frequent basis, and many of the addons are using conjecture rather than documented knowledge to fabricate their addon. The SDK isn't even complete yet. Many of these addons will cause you immense grief if you don't know what you are doing, and clean your community folder before each update. I don't have any addons at this point. I am not saying they can't be deployed successfully, but I am warning you that you will become one of those chronic disgruntled if you don't know what you are doing.
    I think you would be far better served, to master and enjoy the stock aircraft and scenery, until a more final SDK is finished. At some point, it will become possible to add addons with little problem, but I don't think we are there yet for folks like yourself! You were warned!!
    Absolute nonsense. I have hundreds of add-ons, managed via Addon Manager, which places only links to addon files, rather than the files themselves, in Community. For me, MSFS is much enhanced with these add-ons, and has never run better. At least in regard to scenery, I have yet to hear of an example of an addon that has caused anyone trouble. The above-quoted post is uninformed rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    Absolute nonsense. I have hundreds of add-ons, managed via Addon Manager, which places only links to addon files, rather than the files themselves, in Community. For me, MSFS is much enhanced with these add-ons, and has never run better. At least in regard to scenery, I have yet to hear of an example of an addon that has caused anyone trouble. The above-quoted post is uninformed rubbish.
    Each one uses the sim their own way. That's something that has to be reminded from time to time.

    E.g. what to say about myself: I deleted almost all of the stock airplanes (which I find boring), airports, challenges, lessons, etc that I will never use, and depend almost exclusively on 3rd party add-ons, both freeware and payware.

    OTOH, since MSFS is an on-line simulator, everybody needs to be updated to the same version in order to keep consistency. Obviously, such updates may leave some of the 3rd party add-ons in your Community folder outdated, so probably you won't be able to use them again until the respective authors come out with updated versions, and it's useless to keep them in that folder.

    What I don't know yet (and nobody has explained to me) is why it is said to be "crucial" to have your Community folder empty before every MSFS update. I have never moved anything out of that folder, and the "fury of hell" has never been unleashed. If something in the folder has become outdated after one of such updates, I have moved it out once that has been evident, and that's it. But why before? I don't know.

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    You are correct that some add-ons may become obsolete and need to be removed -- indeed I have done this. But the OP was claiming that add-ons in general are bad news and should be avoided, which is ridiculous.
    Regarding the need to empty your Community folder before MSFS mandatory updates: IF you use an add-on linker that places only links to add-on files, and not the files per se, in Community, then you do NOT need to empty Community, because in that case it always contains only links; the actual files are stored in another folder and cannot be affected by an update.

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    I Never said addons are bad news, I said they are bad for people that don't know their way around the computer and may make careless installation mistakes. What part of they can be deployed successfully don't you understand?!
    If you read Glen's other posts and this as well, you will see a trend in discomfort with the workings of his computer. One example is his remark about trying to get photogrammetry to work. My expectation is an addon linker will cause more problems than it solves for a person that can't set up the base software. Likewise, will a person that has difficulty adjusting settings, be able to discern which addons to update and when, much less solve a problem when one does cause a conflict. Before you use hyperbolic language, I suggest you read my posts with more attention to detail!
    Last edited by plainsman; 06-10-2021 at 01:35 PM.
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    To quote from your earlier post: "... many of the addons are using conjecture rather than documented knowledge to fabricate their addon ... Many of these addons will cause you immense grief if you don't know what you are doing." Both of these are baseless statements. What evidence do you have that addon designers are using "conjecture" or that they "cause immense grief"? Files placed in Community cannot affect the basic installation of MSFS, even if they are badly designed or don't work. Before giving advice to others, know what you are talking about.
    Last edited by cobalt; 06-10-2021 at 02:27 PM.

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    The Community folder and it's contents have never been part of a hotfix patch or an update.
    The mods/add-ons within the Community folder are entirely self-contained and don't alter any of the base sim files.
    Avionics mods/add-ons such as the Working Title garmin screens and others which include avionics such as the FlyByWire A32NX, plus any 3rd party and default aircraft mods/add-ons will usually need to be updated themselves after every sim update.
    I have 102 folders in my Community folder right now, of which 14 fall into the categories I've outlined above.
    Only half of them need updating after a sim update, and those updates always include other improvements which the devs have been sitting on until the next sim update, so it's a bonus when a sim update happens rather than a pain.
    Last edited by tiger1962; 06-10-2021 at 02:57 PM.
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