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    MSFS 2020 has been out for nearly a year now…. I assume since I am just joining that there is some knowledge now of the computing needs for MSFS.

    I’m going to purchase a standalone computer dedicated to my flight simulator, so I’m asking what the specifications are that everyone would recommend.

    I saw a couple YouTube videos, they seemed to conflict each other. One guy says don’t worry about how many cores to your CPU, and to get a lower grade one that you can clock up. The other guys says get whatever is fastest and as updates to MSFS come, it will use the CPU more efficiently.

    So, what CPU do you recommend?

    i5, i7? Clock speed?
    Memory? 32G?
    Video card?
    Etc.

    probably a thread talks all of this, but I didn’t see it right off.

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    There is some very important information missing from your question. What monitor and screen resolution do you plan to use? My recommendations would be very different if you have a 1080p monitor than for a 4K monitor. What settings are you wanting to use? For example, you will notice very little difference in many settings on high vs ultra,
    I don't think the advice to overclock is necessarily appropriate. I DON"T overclock, and I have had very few problems so far. Unlike many games, the computing demand remains very high constantly and for a very long time. Having a well ventilated case and good coolers is very important. keep in mind, you will probably experience little difference in flying MSFS at 30 fps and 60 fps. More than 60 fps is really of no benefit, I have my fps limited to 30 fps. I would rather have an enjoyable flight than extra frames at the cost of CTDs and problems.
    At 1080p, you can probably run everything on ultra with an I5 8600K and a RTX 2080 super or RX6700xt. If you plan to run 4K, I would suggest an I9 or Ryzen™ 9 5900X paired with a RTX 3090 or a RX6900xt.
    Fast memory helps, but avoid memory over 3200 speed. 32 gb of memory is plenty. Low latency is also helpful.
    Get a really good large M.2 storage device! This is important.
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    Unfortunately, now is not a good time to be buying a new setup due to the shortage of graphics cards etc & the ridiculously high prices.
    Like Plainsman.. I also do not overclock & don’t often have problems. You want at least one M.2 drives though. I personally keep one for Windows & the other for flight sim.

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    Steve, PhatAV8r is in Shanghai so maybe he can get hold of components which we can't...
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    I didn’t realise that. Maybe he can get hold of an RTX3090 for me 😀

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    I did a few simple math problems to illustrate why monitor resolution is so important to this discussion and why the MicroSoft chart above isn't necessarily very helpful.
    I took 5 screen resolutions and computed the pixels each must write 60 times or more each second.

    1440x900 1296000 pixels
    1920x1080 2073600 pixels
    1920x1200 2304000 pixels
    2560x1440 3686400 pixels
    3840x2160 8294400 pixels

    So you can easily see, it takes vastly less computing power to draw 2,073,600 pixels 60 times a second verses 8,294,400 pixels 60 or more times every second. I am running 1920x1200, an odd size. The MS chart ignores this important consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatAV8r View Post
    MSFS 2020 has been out for nearly a year now…. I assume since I am just joining that there is some knowledge now of the computing needs for MSFS.

    I’m going to purchase a standalone computer dedicated to my flight simulator, so I’m asking what the specifications are that everyone would recommend.

    I saw a couple YouTube videos, they seemed to conflict each other. One guy says don’t worry about how many cores to your CPU, and to get a lower grade one that you can clock up. The other guys says get whatever is fastest and as updates to MSFS come, it will use the CPU more efficiently.

    So, what CPU do you recommend?

    i5, i7? Clock speed?
    Memory? 32G?
    Video card?
    Etc.

    probably a thread talks all of this, but I didn’t see it right off.
    Check out the specs in my signature. My setup is working excellently, at high settings. (I’ve never tested it with ultra settings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by plainsman View Post
    I don't think the advice to overclock is necessarily appropriate. I DON"T overclock, and I have had very few problems so far.
    I don't disagree at all; overclocking adds another variable that complicates matters when trying to optimise your simming experience. However, I overclocked my CPU and GPU, and haven't had any major problems with the sim: very few CTDs, and performance is quite reasonable for what I'm working with. Long winded way to say: it's beneficial if approached carefully and methodically.

    Quote Originally Posted by plainsman View Post
    At 1080p, you can probably run everything on ultra with an I5 8600K and a RTX 2080 super or RX6700xt. If you plan to run 4K, I would suggest an I9 or Ryzen™ 9 5900X paired with a RTX 3090 or a RX6900xt.
    Regarding the CPU aspect in your comparison: it's something I've been thinking about recently. I was always under the impression that if you merely want a higher resolution, with all else being the same, only the GPU needs to be upgraded and not the CPU. The reason I thought this was that there are more pixels to perform processing on (like anti-aliasing, for example) and higher resolutions also require more VRAM to store the frames in the frame buffer. I think that both of those aspects (processing power and VRAM) are associated with a higher-end GPU, but not really CPU.

    However, I might be wrong on this and am geniunly curious to find out what others think: Does increasing resolution alone require a more poweful CPU?
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    https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t...chmarks/392849
    Note this video is using a strong GPU.
    I saw some testing of MSFS with an older mid grade AMD CPU and it seemed to become a bottleneck at high resolutions with a high end GPU.
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