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Thread: Italian Carrier Ops by Enzo Calcagni.

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    Question Italian Carrier Ops by Enzo Calcagni.

    I've installed the three carriers around southern Italy from ico_v1.zip by Enzo Calcagni and noticed the FS2004 restart-after-shutdown problem. I also installed the fix files found in icopat10.zip and removed the ai flatten files (another download)for ai traffic and FS will still restart if it loads the scenery files.

    I'm running Win10, 64 bit, but this shouldn't matter. Anyone else remember having this problem? It isn't a deal-breaker on keeping this scenery installed, but I'd like to fix the issue. Maybe its a texture issue?

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    Oh, almost forgot:

    I'm using Arrcab2.6 for my cables. If you are using the Italian Carriers and Arrcab combo in FS2004, here are the entries you'll need to add to your Arrestor Cables.dat file-


    [Zone38]
    CarrierIdent=CVN68 in Naples Gulf
    FrontRightCornerLat=40.752033
    FrontRightCornerLon=14.122124
    FrontLeftCornerLat=40.752035
    FrontLeftCornerLon=14.121804
    BackLeftCornerLat=40.751656
    BackLeftCornerLon=14.121792
    BackRightCornerLat=40.751653
    BackRightCornerLon=14.122119
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=360
    DeckAltInFeet=92
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.8
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=360

    [Zone39]
    CarrierIdent=CVN68 - Cagliari
    FrontRightCornerLat=38.553413
    FrontRightCornerLon=8.940600
    FrontLeftCornerLat=38.553307
    FrontLeftCornerLon=8.940877
    BackLeftCornerLat=38.552921
    BackLeftCornerLon=8.940636
    BackRightCornerLat=38.553028
    BackRightCornerLon=8.940358
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=206
    DeckAltInFeet=92
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.8
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=92


    [Zone40]
    CarrierIdent=CVN68 - Adriatic Sea
    FrontRightCornerLat=41.991694
    FrontRightCornerLon=17.515992
    FrontLeftCornerLat=41.991484
    FrontLeftCornerLon=17.516099
    BackLeftCornerLat=41.991518
    BackLeftCornerLon=17.516537
    BackRightCornerLat=41.991727
    BackRightCornerLon=17.516500
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=262
    DeckAltInFeet=92
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.8
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=263


    I've kept the Zone## s intact for trouble shooting. If you want to add them to your Arrcab dat file, MAKE SURE you open the file with Notepad and change the Zone ## sequence as needed.

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    Well, that turned out to be an easy fix.

    I downloaded and ran DXTFixerX v2.3 and the wind.bmp texture was the culprit.

    UPDATE:
    Or, maybe not.
    I just tried some shots and traps and the restart-after-shutdown problem is back. To be fair, I have a LOT of scenery loaded so I'll just keep playing around with it and see if anything turns up.
    Last edited by BobSeaman; 05-15-2021 at 09:11 AM.

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    I've never heard of this problem before, so just for my own correct understanding, what you're saying is that when you shut your FS9 down (= exit the game) it completely automatically re-starts again. This does not happen when you've temporarily de-activated your carrier scenery and have flown any other non carrier related flights, pre-saved or not ?

    A further question:

    If your FS9 keeps re-starting after shutdown, how do you shut it down completely ? Do you pull your machine's plug ?

    A bad texture as being part of any active scenery, can certainly cause a system crash or hang when being called apon by the related BGL file but certainly not an automatic re-start after a complete FS9 shutdown.

    In the meantime I will download and (test-)install your carriers to see if I can replicate your problem. However I'm using Win7 64bit but that should not really be any different when Win10 is being used, at least not with your kind of basic problem.

    Regards

    Hans

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    What happens is if FS uses the Italian carriers, when I shut it down the sim will restart. When I shut it down again its fine and stays shut down. Again, not a super big deal if the scenery loads in FS.

    Meanwhile, I was able to snag a copy of Abby's Flight Deck 5 on EBay . It isn't ground breaking by FSX or even FS9 standards, but hey, any carrier is a good carrier.

    If you have FD5 sitting in a closet somewhere, I plotted and tested the cable locations for Arrcab2.6 (any version of Arrcab, really) and verified that everything works.


    Just highlite, copy, and add the following to your Arrcab Arrestor Cables.dat file:


    [ZoneXX]
    CarrierIdent=CVN-78 in the Indian Ocean
    FrontRightCornerLat=17.349709
    FrontRightCornerLon=86.642003
    FrontLeftCornerLat=17.349548
    FrontLeftCornerLon=86.641747
    BackLeftCornerLat=17.349333
    BackLeftCornerLon=86.641789
    BackRightCornerLat=17.349342
    BackRightCornerLon=86.642036
    DeckAltInFeet=67.0
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.4
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=350

    [ZoneXX]
    CarrierIdent=CVN-78 in the English Channel
    FrontRightCornerLat=51.073859
    FrontRightCornerLon=1.492305
    FrontLeftCornerLat=51.073854
    FrontLeftCornerLon=1.491916
    BackLeftCornerLat=51.073496
    BackLeftCornerLon=1.491968
    BackRightCornerLat=51.073570
    BackRightCornerLon=1.492347
    DeckAltInFeet=67.0
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.4
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=350

    [ZoneXX]
    CarrierIdent=CVN-78 off San Diego
    FrontRightCornerLat=32.609242
    FrontRightCornerLon=-117.685582
    FrontLeftCornerLat=32.609183
    FrontLeftCornerLon=-117.685848
    BackLeftCornerLat=32.608865
    BackLeftCornerLon=-117.685803
    BackRightCornerLat=32.608895
    BackRightCornerLon=-117.685482
    DeckAltInFeet=67.0
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.4
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=350

    [ZoneXX]
    CarrierIdent=CVN-78 in the Persian Gulf
    FrontRightCornerLat=29.849160
    FrontRightCornerLon=48.736147
    FrontLeftCornerLat=29.849128
    FrontLeftCornerLon=48.735887
    BackLeftCornerLat=29.848817
    BackLeftCornerLon=48.735947
    BackRightCornerLat=29.848863
    BackRightCornerLon=48.736249
    DeckAltInFeet=67.0
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.4
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=350

    [ZoneXX]
    CarrierIdent=CVN-73 off Pearl Harbor
    FrontRightCornerLat=21.166279
    FrontRightCornerLon=-157.958717
    FrontLeftCornerLat=21.166137
    FrontLeftCornerLon=-157.958968
    BackLeftCornerLat=21.165949
    BackLeftCornerLon=-157.958956
    BackRightCornerLat=21.165980
    BackRightCornerLon=-157.958734
    DeckAltInFeet=67.0
    CableCatchZoneHeightInFeet=2.4
    RunwayHeadingInDegreesMag=350

    Same numbering convention as before, change XX to the next number in your .dat file and only use Notepad to edit the .dat. Wire locations were verified using Nav.exe and were based on slewing a helo around the deck and setting the main rotor directly above the deck pulleys.

    Now, go catch a 3 wire.

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    Bob,

    I downloaded/installed your three Italian carriers and they all presented themselves normally but rather devoid of so called "eye candy". However, after sitting on each of their flight decks in one of my test aircraft and then shutting my FS9 down, there were no automatic re-starts.

    I took a good look at each carrier Afcad file and found them to be rather strange in their basic designs. E.g. They had no runway(s) which are basically needed for hardening their complete flight decks. They only had very small as "runway" specified rectangular areas, spread out on different parts of them. I found their flight decks not to be hard under all circumstances.

    The only "problem" I found concerning the "Wind.bmp" texture file, was that it had no alpha channel. However, setting it's alpha channel did not improve anything, at least not visibly, nor did it cause/solve any automatic FS9 re-starts.

    After trying and testing some more but without being able to replicate your automatic re-starts, I finally give up and deleted everything.

    For many years I've been using an old but very well made carrier named "Waikato" situated off the East coast of New Zealand's North Island. Why there ? Because it has a land Air Force base named "Whenuapai AFB" (NZWP), situated a short distance away and which makes them both ideal for short flights between them, using military jets, helicopters, etc.

    Not only that but I've also set up Rob Barendregt's catapult and cable trapping systems on an Air Force Base named "Patuxent River NAS" (KNHK) in the USA. I use this for practicing my carrier flight operations.

    Regards and happy landings.

    Hans

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    Hans; Thanks for taking a look at it.

    I'm closing in on 50 "trap" zones for Arrcab (carriers plus the NOLF zones near Norfolk and one at NAS Fallon) and I think I'm getting close to some upper limits.

    I'm on the fence at the moment if I'll add the two zones for NAS LeMoore.
    I have the MAIW LeMoore package installed and its tempting to add them but I always thought of LeMoore more as a strike training base vs a place to work on carrier quals.

    With the Italian Carriers, if it becomes a problem I can always leave the scenery installed but de-activate it in my scenery.cfg file.
    Last edited by BobSeaman; 05-16-2021 at 12:00 PM.

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    Just an afterthought.

    When starting up your FS9 for the first time after switching on your rig, do you need to start your FS9 up twice before it actually opens ? If so, you may have a registry problem, which has been handled in this forum about two years ago.

    Regards
    Hans

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    No, everything else is fine. I used the non-traditional install location of C:/FS9 but things start normally and its only those carriers that cause the odd shut-down issue.

    If you need any wire locations for Arrcab or the other trapping software/gauges just post and I'll see it.

    One carrier I almost forgot about with an odd issue you might want to experience, find the USS Kitty Hawk for FS2000 by the CORAL team. It installed with some minor deck crew hassles and it is much older software but at least it installs. I figured out the cable zone and the deck height and was happily snagging wires south of Tokyo but then the wires stopped working.

    Turned out that I had updated the weather and the wind direction changed. The carrier and its escorts always face into the wind but the deck goodies and the ILS don't.

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