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Thread: PMDG delays the 737NG3 to the end of 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvensmith View Post
    Not only that when you look at what PMDG are charging for some of their stuff (three figure sums for certain items) that's not going to appeal to the casual or even semi serious simmer on a budget of maybe £30 or £40 for a single aircraft type.
    Spot on Vern. MSFS is an Xbox title, how many of the millions of Xbox gamers are seasoned flight simmers who've ever heard of PMDG before, and will be inclined to gamble the cost of the sim itself on a single plane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki View Post
    It happened when P3D came out, and since enough people proved they were willing to pay the new prices, they kept them.
    I hear what you're saying, but P3D wasn't a quantum leap in programming from FSX, even with the 64-bit change. MSFS is a start-from-scratch exercise, the heaviest of all investments in programming time and effort. Is the existing, and shrinking, customer base going to be worth the investment? Plenty of long-time simmers hate this new sim and won't make the move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger1962 View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but P3D wasn't a quantum leap in programming from FSX, even with the 64-bit change. MSFS is a start-from-scratch exercise, the heaviest of all investments in programming time and effort. Is the existing, and shrinking, customer base going to be worth the investment? Plenty of long-time simmers hate this new sim and won't make the move.
    Whether it will be worth the investment is a good question, and will depend a lot on how far Asobo and Microsoft are willing to go with the sim's functionality and SDK. P3D, and X-Plane too, have basically had a couple decades to build out their features and APIs, so do have a pretty big head start. On the other hand, MSFS has a much larger budget and development team, at least currently, and could well pass both incumbent sims if Microsoft remains dedicated to it.

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    Well £100+ (or $100+) is well beyond the limit of what I would pay for a single aircraft add-on - period!

    I'll be over at the Just Flight check in counter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki View Post
    Whether it will be worth the investment is a good question, and will depend a lot on how far Asobo and Microsoft are willing to go with the sim's functionality and SDK. P3D, and X-Plane too, have basically had a couple decades to build out their features and APIs, so do have a pretty big head start. On the other hand, MSFS has a much larger budget and development team, at least currently, and could well pass both incumbent sims if Microsoft remains dedicated to it.
    Yes indeed, there's also the case that P3D and X-Plane are based on fairly unique (if not outdated) code by today's standards, accessible only to specialists, whereas MSFS is based on current code and is therefore accessible to a global community of current game developers and modders, who are blindingly quick off the mark.
    Next year won't do any more. PMDG can't just take their own sweet time and expect the flight sim community to patiently wait.
    Now more than ever, PMDG and all the other established flight sim developers need to be like General MacArthur, "Firstest with the Mostest".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvensmith View Post
    Well £100+ (or $100+) is well beyond the limit of what I would pay for a single aircraft add-on - period!

    I'll be over at the Just Flight check in counter...
    HEY!!! There's a back to this queue!
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