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    Quote Originally Posted by loki View Post
    If you want to get access to the Insider site you will need to join the Xbox Insider program. This is similar to the Windows and Office Insider programs, among others, that Microsoft runs for pre-release access to software. Also, Microsoft has moved all of their gaming related products and services, which includes sims, for both Xbox consoles and PC, under the Xbox brand. Thus the need for the Xbox Insider program. There is no need to sign up for any subscription for this either.
    Ok I see what you're saying about "the Insider" program. My next question is what do they want to know about me and who will they share it with?

    I know I'm old! But I know way too many people personally whose "private" information has exposed them to hoaxes.

    And I know one woman who suffered serious ID Theft and had to reapply for credit cards, voting, etc. It took years to get her credit ratings and retirement benefits straightened out!! So I'm loathe to put a lot out there especially if it involves tracking my touches and the info I access.
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    Geez Rupert, if you're that freaked out about the risks of joining then don't join, no one's twisting your arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmguyer View Post
    Geez Rupert, if you're that freaked out about the risks of joining then don't join, no one's twisting your arm.
    Good point, that's why I don't! But I have to wonder why so many others do? Lemming attitude?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmguyer View Post
    Geez Rupert, if you're that freaked out about the risks of joining then don't join, no one's twisting your arm.
    I fully understand his attitude, and I share it, to a large degree. I've been in computers, one way or another, for 40+ years, including a stint working with some folks at Bell Labs where I discovered how certain folks can easily bypass most "safeguards." I also learned how inadvertent bugs can be a bear to find, along with a few other things.

    The main point being that perhaps I know too much, causing me to be extremely skeptical about the safety of computers. Add to that the (relatively recent) growing spate of "hacked" systems, the proliferation of malware AND the way more and more otherwise reputable businesses are gathering information they're not entitled to, then SELLING it, often to bad actors, or otherwise misusing it, and you eventually develop a very pessimistic outlook on such things.

    Certainly he doesn't HAVE to join, but as I often do, he's researching what he'd get into if he DID join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
    Ok I see what you're saying about "the Insider" program. My next question is what do they want to know about me and who will they share it with?

    I know I'm old! But I know way too many people personally whose "private" information has exposed them to hoaxes.

    And I know one woman who suffered serious ID Theft and had to reapply for credit cards, voting, etc. It took years to get her credit ratings and retirement benefits straightened out!! So I'm loathe to put a lot out there especially if it involves tracking my touches and the info I access.
    Being cautious is always good practice. There is nothing stopping you from creating an account with a fake name that you could use for this. I know one person who signs up as Mark Twain or other historical people when they don't want to give anything away. You also don't need to provide much personal info either. And there are options for two factor authentication to help keep others out as well.

    Most severe ID theft involves far more than just getting access to someone's Microsoft account. Far too often the hacked accounts you hear about in the news were ones where the same password was used on multiple accounts, or the password was something simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
    Ok I see what you're saying about "the Insider" program. My next question is what do they want to know about me and who will they share it with?
    They only ask the minimum needed to register your "Gamertag" (that is the alias you choose to be known by). No personal information aside from your name and email addressed are asked for.

    My "Gamertag" is N4GIX, which says nothing that can identify my real name to anyone...

    ...besides another amateur radio operator who knows how to look me up that is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by n4gix View Post
    They only ask the minimum needed to register your "Gamertag" (that is the alias you choose to be known by). No personal information aside from your name and email addressed are asked for.

    My "Gamertag" is N4GIX, which says nothing that can identify my real name to anyone...


    ...besides another amateur radio operator who knows how to look me up that is!

    I'm glad you added that last one, Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n4gix View Post

    ...besides another amateur radio operator who knows how to look me up that is!
    Uh, Bill....You'd be surprised how easy you are to look up!
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    Indeed it is. We can't hide from anyone.......Doug
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    Yep, I was thinking the same thzing LOL

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