HPR7 mad Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hi Looking for some help with Traffic toolbox. I have installed the traffic SDK in FSX-SE, and it works absolutely fine I have installed the SDK in FSX, and it doesn't work!!! They are both installed on the same PC running W10, (without any problems) and these are the relevant paths in the dll.xml file, in the relevant app data folders FSX-SE Traffic Toolbox False False C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll works fine:) FSX Traffic Toolbox False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll No workie:mad: I have copied the traffic toolbox from steam and put in the FSX folder, so I can't work out why it's declining to work!!, any ideas what I am doing wrong? Happy Xmas to all you wonderful simmers, wherever you are, and have a great new year, Cheers from a very wet and windy Devon, Richard i7-4770K 4.60 GHz (Hyperthreading off) Liquid Cooling 16GB G-Skill DDR3 GeForce GTX1050Ti 4GB 500GB WD Blue 3D SSD SATA III x4 Creative Sound Z Sound Card 5.1Ch 24BitAvermedia video capture card CH Yoke and Rudder NZXT Fan Controller Windows10 64 Prof FS9 - FSX -FSX-SE Track Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llivaudais Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 well, as fanatic as M/S is about having the correct versions of the SDK and the sim properly matched, I'd think that the SE version DLL is only correctly matched to FSX.exe (SE) but not when it is being used with disk version FSX (since it's being used with a fsx.exe of a different version). Just my guess; I've thought about just copying it also but never got around to testing it... Loyd Hooked since FS4... now flying: self-built i7-4790 at 4 GHz; GA-Z97X mobo; GTX 970; 16GB gskill; quiet, fast and cool running. Win 7/64: 840 EVO OS; 840 EVO (500G) game drive; Win10/64: 850 EVO (500G) for OS and games A few Flightsim videos on YouTube at CanyonCorners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattermann Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 well, as fanatic as M/S is about having the correct versions of the SDK and the sim properly matched, I'd think that the SE version DLL is only correctly matched to FSX.exe (SE) but not when it is being used with disk version FSX (since it's being used with a fsx.exe of a different version). Just my guess; I've thought about just copying it also but never got around to testing it... Loyd I think the same as Loyd. Another thing: between FSX and Traffictool box (on the path) there is no environment kit folder mentioned??? happy landings! Christian:pilot: Intel i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHZ, 4 Kerne, 16 GB MSI RX 480; M. SATA WD 500 GB; WD RED PRO 2TB Win 10, 64 bit; FSX Gold Acc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llivaudais Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Good Catch Flattermann ... I incorrectly thought he'd copied the DLL but, in re-reading, he did say INSTALL and the path is missing the \SDK\Environment Kit\ portion of the installation path that we'd expect. I do find it very odd to install to the Desktop but I don't have any experience to suggest that it wouldn't work there. I think I'd visually find that dll and make sure the path is correctly defined in the dll.xml. L Hooked since FS4... now flying: self-built i7-4790 at 4 GHz; GA-Z97X mobo; GTX 970; 16GB gskill; quiet, fast and cool running. Win 7/64: 840 EVO OS; 840 EVO (500G) game drive; Win10/64: 850 EVO (500G) for OS and games A few Flightsim videos on YouTube at CanyonCorners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPR7 mad Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies, and well spotted on the folder paths, but I have taken the Traffic toolbox out of the SDK/Environment folder, so the path is correct and matches exactly, as I only have the Traffic toolbox folder with the dll.xml and other bits in installed in the main FSX folder, so I guess you maybe right in saying that it needs the correct SDK for FSX, that I don't have:( As for installing FS on the desktop, I have been doing it for years and it seems to work fine, I seem to remember reading somewhere that the shorter you can make the path to your FS, the quicker it can load, hence the scenery folders on the desktop also, but thanks for the replies cheers Richard i7-4770K 4.60 GHz (Hyperthreading off) Liquid Cooling 16GB G-Skill DDR3 GeForce GTX1050Ti 4GB 500GB WD Blue 3D SSD SATA III x4 Creative Sound Z Sound Card 5.1Ch 24BitAvermedia video capture card CH Yoke and Rudder NZXT Fan Controller Windows10 64 Prof FS9 - FSX -FSX-SE Track Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTweak Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Don't forget, there are two different SDK versions that you have to use. One is for FSX-SE, and it's a version of the P3D SDK, which can be downloaded from the FSDeveloper Resources section. The other, for FSX Box, is included on the FSX discs, and must be downloaded and installed from them. And never the twain shall meet, as the saying goes. Finally, yes, in the FSX Box DLL.XML entry, the "Environment Kit" part of the path is missing. Is this intentional, or inadvertant? Good fortune! Pat☺ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Had a thought...then there was the smell of something burning, and sparks, and then a big fire, and then the lights went out! I guess I better not do that again! Sgt, USMC, 10 years proud service, Inactive reserve now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPR7 mad Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi Pat, The path is correct, all I did was copied the, "Traffic Tool Box" folder and put it in the main FSX folder, I didn' bother with the environment folder so the path is C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll and that is intentional, but as you pointed out, it is the wrong SDK:(, so taint ever gonna work:D, I will have to see if I can find the correct SDK, it didn't install with my box FSX Many thanks for the help, Richard i7-4770K 4.60 GHz (Hyperthreading off) Liquid Cooling 16GB G-Skill DDR3 GeForce GTX1050Ti 4GB 500GB WD Blue 3D SSD SATA III x4 Creative Sound Z Sound Card 5.1Ch 24BitAvermedia video capture card CH Yoke and Rudder NZXT Fan Controller Windows10 64 Prof FS9 - FSX -FSX-SE Track Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTweak Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 It can be found, and downloaded from here : https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/resources/prepar3d-v1-sdk.227/ Hope this helps a little... By the way: when you click the button "Go To Download" in the upper right area of the page, it starts the download. It gives no real indication that it did so, it just starts it downloading to your PC. Once it's all the way done, just use your browser's normal method of finding it on your computer. Then, open it with your normal zipfile software. I use 7Zip, but everyone uses their own. Pat☺ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Had a thought...then there was the smell of something burning, and sparks, and then a big fire, and then the lights went out! I guess I better not do that again! Sgt, USMC, 10 years proud service, Inactive reserve now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPR7 mad Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hi Pat, Thanks for the info, I found the SDK on the FSX disc, didn't realise it was on there, so installed that and gave it a go, still no joy:( So I then downloaded the P3D SDK from the link you provided, installed that, and guess what, still no joy, although when I did start FSX, it did ask me to confirm I wanted to load and trust the traffic tools module, but it still didn't bloody load it:confused: I can load FSX-SE and I have the "TOOLS" tab in the menu bar across the top, open that up and there are the traffic tools. I load FSX and no "TOOLS" tab, nothing, nada, zilch, wtf:mad: Both are installed OUT of the x86 folder as usual, so I just can't see why it won't load it. This is the FSX dll, that wont load:, note that all the other active items load correctly - Launch dll.xml False False - ObjectFlow_EGTH.dll False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_AA_EGTH\Scenery\ObjectFlow_EGTH.dll - ObjectFlow_EGHP.dll False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_AA_EGHP\Scenery\ObjectFlow_EGHP.dll - ObjectFlow.dll False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery\ObjectFlow.dll - ObjectFlow_EGHA.dll False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\ORBX\FTX_EU\FTX_AA_EGHA\Scenery\ObjectFlow_EGHA.dll - Object Placement Tool True False ..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll - Traffic Toolbox False False C:\P3DSDK\Environment SDK\Traffic Toolbox SDK\TrafficToolbox.dll - Visual Effects Tool True False ..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll - CMeteoXml False .\CMeteoXml.dll - CMeteoXml False .\CMeteoXml.dll - FS Recorder False False C:\Users\Richard\Desktop\FSX\FSRecorder_FSX.dll - FSUIPC 4 False Modules\FSUIPC4.dll This is the FSX-SE dll that does load - Launch dll.xml False False - ObjectFlow.dll False False C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\ORBX\FTX_AU\FTXAA_ORBXLIBS\Scenery\ObjectFlow.dll - Object Placement Tool True False ..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll - Traffic Toolbox False False C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll - Visual Effects Tool True False ..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll - FSUIPC 4 False Modules\FSUIPC4.dll /SimBase.Document> I just can't see the reason it won't load it, very annoying, but I guess it will turn out to be operator error as usual, cheers Richard i7-4770K 4.60 GHz (Hyperthreading off) Liquid Cooling 16GB G-Skill DDR3 GeForce GTX1050Ti 4GB 500GB WD Blue 3D SSD SATA III x4 Creative Sound Z Sound Card 5.1Ch 24BitAvermedia video capture card CH Yoke and Rudder NZXT Fan Controller Windows10 64 Prof FS9 - FSX -FSX-SE Track Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) I don't understand this. If you've correctly installed SDK for FSX-SE and it's working, you should only rewrite the paths in your boxed FSX dll.xml to C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll (the Steam path). No need to install the SDK a second time. How did you manage that btw? Both versions can work with that one single SDK imo. [ADDED] IF your boxed FSX is FSX+Accel Wim Edited December 24, 2019 by f16jockey_2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPR7 mad Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 Hi Wim I don't understand this. If you've correctly installed SDK for FSX-SE and it's working, you should only rewrite the paths in your boxed FSX dll.xml to C:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll (the Steam path). Wim I tried changing the path as you posted above, but still no joy, and to be honest I am not that bothered if it doesn't work in FSX boxed, I only use this to test things that I am going to use in FSX-Steam, so although it would have been good if it had worked, it works fine in Steam, so no sleep lost there, but thanks to all who replied, much appreciated, Happy New year to you all, Richard i7-4770K 4.60 GHz (Hyperthreading off) Liquid Cooling 16GB G-Skill DDR3 GeForce GTX1050Ti 4GB 500GB WD Blue 3D SSD SATA III x4 Creative Sound Z Sound Card 5.1Ch 24BitAvermedia video capture card CH Yoke and Rudder NZXT Fan Controller Windows10 64 Prof FS9 - FSX -FSX-SE Track Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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