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    Thumbs down Disappointed to say the least!

    As a Developer I find very disappointing that MS is Not providing the Alpha or Beta of their supposedly new Sim to developers who ask for it. They know it is hard, sometimes very hard, to set up for a new simulator if you are developing under the present available sims. But as always MS does strange things and hardly try to help others with their belief that helping possible competition in any way, repeat in any way, is a bad thing. That's usually the thinking pattern of "Elites".

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    Nobody, at least publicly, has access to the alphas. It sounds like they are still testing them internally to get them ready for people to use. From the X019 interviews they do seem quite intent on getting them out to people. Using a broken alpha release doesn't seem like it would help third party developers very much.

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    They have stated, in a video, that 60 developers have been approached so far.
    You have to apply to become an Alpha tester. Being a developer does not automatically be accepted into the Alpha testing program. To think so is quite elitist!
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    Well, that's that. The problem I see is that Not making available to all developers, well known and professional ones who make addons for pay, is not a good policy IF you really want for All to participate with their products. Anyway, we'll see what happens in the near or long future with their policy. Getting to know the ins and outs of software one works on top of i or with it is not an easy nor fast way. The Past of MS with other developers has no 5 star ending so to have Skepticism is not being elitist as Robin says from South Africa. Many developers live from their sales Robin. Good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky44 View Post
    Well, that's that. The problem I see is that Not making available to all developers, well known and professional ones who make addons for pay, is not a good policy IF you really want for All to participate with their products. Anyway, we'll see what happens in the near or long future with their policy. Getting to know the ins and outs of software one works on top of i or with it is not an easy nor fast way. The Past of MS with other developers has no 5 star ending so to have Skepticism is not being elitist as Robin says from South Africa. Many developers live from their sales Robin. Good day.
    Perhaps they simply aren't at a point that they can provide developers something useful? Seeing as we very likely have plenty of time before the final release, I don't see any reason to get so worked up just yet.

    Have a read of the Flightsim.com interview on the front page. It touches on the SDK and what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zswobbie1 View Post
    They have stated, in a video, that 60 developers have been approached so far.
    You have to apply to become an Alpha tester. Being a developer does not automatically be accepted into the Alpha testing program. To think so is quite elitist!
    I'd have to disagree there...It would be proper to give developers -- all of them -- access to the new sim as soon as possible so they can learn how to add to it, also as soon as possible.

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    MSFS is also possibly not going to be as open to development as past FS versions. Really need to wait and see.
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    Why?
    They have said that they want to get the sim as perfect as possible before release, therefore, as the sim is in a tech alpha stage, many things within the sim could change.
    Imagine if addon developers started developing now, spending time effort and money, and their product tanked at release, if there were changes within the core sim. Imagine the critics saying that MS has done it again..
    Patience, young Jedi.. Both developers and users are trying to get their hands on the sim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zswobbie1 View Post
    Why?
    They have said that they want to get the sim as perfect as possible before release
    Because I am not convinced they are building the best PC flight sim they could build. They are working within restrictions. I haven't changed my view since the announcement of MSFS and still have not seen anything to change my mind.
    I can see reason why MSFS may not be as open to 3rd party development as in past sims. Let's see what happens.

    And of course they are going to say they want to get the sim as perfect as possible before release. What would you expect them to say?
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    Doesn't sound like you will need to wait much longer for the SDK.

    SDK UPDATE

    The team is making good progress on the SDK development. While still in the early stages, the plan is to provide an initial version of the SDK to the 3rd party developer community before the end of the year. Our goal has been to involve 3rd parties early in the development process, and to give them the ability to influence our priorities and how we author the SDK. After the first wave of initial 3rd party developer visits onsite with the team, we’ve been incredibly excited by the optimism and feedback we’ve received thus far. These same tools will be provided to the community in effort to ensure the tools we use to create content, tools that undergo constant testing in our production environment, are shared with all our creators. Initially, the SDK will offer the ability to author planes, sceneries and custom missions. For those with a preference for using FSX tools, SimConnect will be supported. We will also support additional modern standards like HTML for UI and glTF for 3D models

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