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Thread: I am looking for someone using an X56 HOTAS

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    I have two X56 flight control systems and they are both having the same problem. I would like to find another X56 user to discuss this with. Here is the deal. When I try to fly inverted the plane will not stay in the inverted position. It immediately flips out of that position causing some lose of control and disorientation. The same thing happens when trying to do a roll. As soon as it gets inverted the plane flips out. If I slow the simulation rate to the slowest I can see it snapping out of the inverted position. I have contacted Logitech support but they do not have an FSX or P3D program they can test this with and without them seeing it in action I don't believe we will ever come to a solution. If I could make an Mp3 video of the problem in action maybe they could play that, but I don't know how to do that. If there is an X56 simmer reading this please respond. Thanks
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    I can't believe there is no one using the X56 flight system in FSX or P3D. If anyone has an X56 please respond to this post. I am getting desperate.
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    The problem has been solved. Someone on the FSX-SE forum suggested that I increase my joystick dead zones to a higher setting like 30. So I did this and sure enough the roll anomaly was fixed. I tried several aircraft and they all worked correctly. WooHoo!
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT-65 View Post
    The problem has been solved. Someone on the FSX-SE forum suggested that I increase my joystick dead zones to a higher setting like 30. So I did this and sure enough the roll anomaly was fixed. I tried several aircraft and they all worked correctly. WooHoo!
    You should be returning the product for a replacement, or repair.
    No way that you should need to increase the null zone to anything like 30.
    That merely indicates the X-56 is faulty...

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    Well, as mentioned above, I have 2 of these X56 systems and both of them do the same thing. I don't think sending them back would solve the problem. With a deadzone of 30 everything seems to be fine. I always believed that deadzones would increase delayed action so I always had mine at either 0 or less than 5. As it turns out there is no noticeable delay. I am now realizing that it actually smooths out the action of the controls to a more realistic feel.
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT-65 View Post
    I have two X56 flight control systems and they are both having the same problem. I would like to find another X56 user to discuss this with. Here is the deal. When I try to fly inverted the plane will not stay in the inverted position. It immediately flips out of that position causing some lose of control and disorientation. The same thing happens when trying to do a roll. As soon as it gets inverted the plane flips out. If I slow the simulation rate to the slowest I can see it snapping out of the inverted position. I have contacted Logitech support but they do not have an FSX or P3D program they can test this with and without them seeing it in action I don't believe we will ever come to a solution. If I could make an Mp3 video of the problem in action maybe they could play that, but I don't know how to do that. If there is an X56 simmer reading this please respond. Thanks

    I have been using the X-56 for a couple of years now, have had MANY problems, but not that particular one. I "fly" FSX SE and Elite Dangerous Horizons, and have experienced a succession of problems but never a "snapping out of control" while inverted.
    i'm no expert, but that sounds like a PC problem with the program rather than a problem with the controllers themselves.
    If BOTH X-56 controllers are doing the same thing it's a program issue. If one were doing it and the other not, I wouldn't be surprised. But Both??? Nah, it's program.

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    Today I made a major discovery. It turns out that the problem doesn't have anything to do with Deadzones after all. The problem returned so I tried a few other things. I use EZCA v2 and started using it at almost the same time I got the X56 controller. So today I loaded up the sim without EZCA and I was able to do a normal roll and fly inverted. I loaded up EZCA and the problem returned. I don't know what part of EZCA is causing the problem though. I have tried turning on and off various settings and none of them stopped the roll over problem. I have tried turning EZCA on and off several times and when it's off no roll over problem when it's on problem returns. Now that we know this does anyone have any ideas about what part of EZCA could be causing this? I really like using EZCA and would like to find out if there is a setting causing this problem.
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    Problem Solved, Again. This time I am certain that I'm right. The roll over problem is due to the effects of the Horizon Hold in EZCA. I set a switch on my throttle unit to turn it off If I have the need to toll the aircraft. So far the fix is working great. Apparently no one else has ever experienced this issue, but if they do I hope they find this thread. Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I hope no one ever has the hear about this issue again.
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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    Problem Solved, Again. This time I am certain that I'm right. The roll over problem is due to the effects of the Horizon Hold in EZCA. I set a switch on my throttle unit to turn it off If I have the need to toll the aircraft. So far the fix is working great. Apparently no one else has ever experienced this issue, but if they do I hope they find this thread. Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I hope no one ever has the hear about this issue again.
    i7 8700K CPU @ 4.4 GHz, 16 GB DDR4 3000 memory, Gigabyte Aorus Z370 MB, Asus GTX 960 OC GPU 4GB GDDR5 Memory, MasterAir MA610P CPU cooler, 500GB SSD, 2T HDD, 3 Asus 24" monitors, Saitek X56 Rhino HOTAS.

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