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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsymoth View Post
    I have 2 or 3 aircraft that don't lose speed quickly enough when the throttle is closed & gear & flaps are down = how can I increase the drag effect ?
    Name them. Are you trying to `go down and slow down` at the same time?
    Change your methodology not the aircraft drag effect. Gear (and to a certain extent flaps) will not prevent a heavy or slippery aircraft from accelerating while descending. Solution is not to try but to slow down in level flight (or even in a slight climb) FIRST, before pitching for descent.

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    I used another computer this morning (W7) & all seems well......smooth 360 Rw 30 landing.

    I'll check the Vista machine I used yesterday (I make my panels, etc with it) to see if FS2004 is still playing up. ILS was doing odd things...............

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    Hi check in the CFG file for minimum Throttle setting.

    If prop plane and not constant speed prop with reverse, set it to zero.

    to check it out you can , IF you have installed the MS Toolbox, select Map and see what Throttle setting is indicated for your plane.

    IF you retarded the Throttle you should have ZERO.

    In the AIR file Rec 1101 in the Dra section you can increase the numbers for Gear and Flap drag.

    g. kirschstein

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    thanks for info. I'll check it all out & get back to you.

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    Model Zip File: 'sshor60.zip'

    -----------------Air File:
    - flaps positions=3 //SHOULD BE '=4'

    Section 1101:
    - Flaps Drag=164 //should be '=320'

    ----------------Aircraft.cfg:

    [Flaps.0]
    type= 1
    span-outboard= 0.500
    extending-time= 5.000
    system_type= 0
    damaging-speed= 250.000
    blowout-speed= 300.000
    lift_scalar= 1.000
    drag_scalar= 1.000
    pitch_scalar= 1.000
    flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000
    flaps-position.1= 9.000, 0.000 //o=5.000, 0.000
    flaps-position.2= 29.000, 0.000 //o=15.000, 0.000
    flaps-position.3= 49.000, 0.000 //o=30.000, 0.000

    Now you should be able to land it at 120 kts with the stall warning coming on at 110 kts! Stall at 90 kts.

    Chuck B
    Napamule
    i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D. FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS).

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    Thank you. I think the problem was a dodgy fs in the vista machine I use for editing things.
    It was behaving perfectly in a windoze 7 machine when I checked it yesterday.
    I'm going to reinstall the sim for a fresh start.

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    With my mods I do approach at 100 kts and land (perfect) at 96 kts and COULD maybe even land it at 90 kts with some (+3.0 to +4.0) of pitch trim and lighter load. Vista should be ok with FS9. Also XP should be ok. So it's something else and not Windoze. I would delete the fs9 cfg and let FS build a new one to see it that 'cures' it before I would re-install. But re-install is not hard IF YOU DO IT RIGHT. If you leave stuff behind it is not good. Best to also do format (if possible). That is why I have Sims (FS9 and FSX) in seperate drive (D drive) from Windows drive (C drive). Work, work, work on PC/Windows is all we do all the time! It never ends. Cheers.
    Chuck B
    Napamule
    i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D. FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS).

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    2 weeks ago in the vista machine ATC started giving me landing permission & whilst floating over the perimeter fence giving another aircraft permission to t/o & telling me to go around. I moved to do the vagar approach with the Mike Stone Short 360 & had trouble slowing down........never had that experience before......

    I Uninstall FS & then do some cleaning before copy & pasting from a good fair copy & like you it's on a seperate dedicated but internal drive......works a treat when I've done it before.

    Keep up the good work!!
    Terry.

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    Aha! 'before copy & pasting..'. That might be the problem. You can't expect FS9 to work well if you copy and paste stuff from one PC to another. The install from CD's takes care of a lot of things that a copy/paste can't do. The registry to name one. So the FS9 cfg came from another laptop/pc with a different version of Windows AND a different video card? Really?! I don't think that will work, but Hey, I could be wrong. Good luck with that. Keep copy/pasting and un-installing FS9 until you suceed (NOT!).
    Chuck B
    Napamule
    i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D. FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS).

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    Hi,

    I downloaded the plane "sshor360.zip" and flew it.

    The plane flies well.
    At FL100 it reaches exactly the 218 kts as per Spec.

    Retarding the Throttle it slowed down correctly without any fass.
    extending the flaps it slowed VERY nicely.

    extend the gear it slowed even more correctly.

    TD was at 92 kts full flap.

    What airplane are you using , Sir ??

    What did you change ?

    Right out of the box the plane flies PRETTY well in all regimes, T.O. / Cruise at Level, descendinding and slowing down, Landing perfect ...

    Did I use the wrong plane ??

    Rgds

    G. kirschstein

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