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    CRJ... Thanks...there is no doubt in my mind that Microsoft and Canon have effectively rendered my MP210 and MP190 dead UNLESS (In the case of Canon) I use new Canon cartridges. The driver matter was a case of overcoming a Windows 10 update.
    For those who could benefit, this is the eye tiring story. A couple of years ago, I began refilling cartridges after learning of such on the web. Initially, it worked but later I had to overcame a couple of querks. Then, a year ago, both printers became outright spastic(!) and we decided to buy a Canon 4010 when I figured the print mechanisms had failed. I disconnected the old ones and left them in a room to collect dust. The 4010 allows us to use 1 printer for 2 PCs. I pondered discarding the old printers but did not do so because I felt there was something about all of it which was not right since BOTH failed at about the same time (Like the Boeing MAX story)! Then one day I decided to power up one of them. The printer program was still undisturbed inside the PC then. The printer I tried printed like nothing ever happened to it= perfect. Then I knew... Now, it seems whatever I do, I cannot overcome the refilled cartridge matter--despite exploring every answer seen on Youtube and beyond. Now I am tempted to try and refill them in place but this would require some machine alterations to reach the top area of the cartridges. Plus, apparently Canon uses a "Count" procedure in determining the life of a cartridge. This meaning you can only print so many pages with a cartridge and then it is deemed nearly empty, forcing replacement.

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    If you want to test the printers in a Windows 7 environment, then you can try a VMware image of 7. You'd launch the VMware instance which is called a guest operating system and try to print. It may or may not work seen is how this is a virtual environment. If itr prints in 7 and not 10 you'll no for sure what to blame.

    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...dge/tools/vms/

    I'm downloading that right now to see if it will work for your test. If it doesn't, what you need is a Win 7 install disk or the Win 7 download and use that to create the VMware OS install. You don't even need to add a product key since I think it's 90 days until you have to.

    On the subject of printers. I have heard Brother makes a good printer, but you'll want to compare and contrast reviews. If you use Amazon, use fakespot to see whether the reviews have any deception. Fakespot will give you a deception review grade. This is NOT a product grade, only a review grade on the quality of the reviews and if they can be trusted. A lot of companies pay people to write phony positive reviews so Fakespot weeds that out and lets you know with a grade A-F. It'll even work with Yelp and other sites. https://www.fakespot.com/

    Use more than one site for review comparisons. Even eBay.

    Another thing. I've read that laser printers use way less ink than a money stealing cartridge. I used to work for a computer and printer recycling company and I dealt with printer cartridges all day. For a laser printer the ink is actually called toner, a large toner cartridge. They are A LOT more expensive, but should last a lot longer. Plus, they don't dry up. It's a powder, really. I looked like a coal miner after my shift at work.

    I've also heard HP makes a great printer, but again, do your research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRJ_simpilot View Post
    I've also heard HP makes a great printer, but again, do your research.
    Once true, but HP ain't what it used to be. Awful software for consumer market printers and, from my experience, their ink jet printers are lucky to last 3 years at most after normal use. Don't make the mistake of thinking HP still makes reliable printers. The last HP ink-jet I owned had the awful BUY A NEW HP CARTRIDGE pop-up every single time you would print, when the toner got low. And no way to turn off the notification -- it was hard coded into the printer driver. I replaced it with a Canon AIO, will not be buying HP for home ever again.
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    Since this has evolved into printer/ink... I've heard many times that it's the ink that makes the money not the sale of the printers. So it makes sense that they would do everything in their power to encourage you to buy their brand.

    As far as WU... I hate them I hate them I hate them. Except for security updates, which is an ever evolving danger, if it ain't broke, etc., etc.
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    2 things:
    First the printer ink, I saw a video one time where a guy bought 2 new ink cartridges, he opened them up and inside was a sponge plus ink, but the cartridges were not full, so obviously they soon run out.
    He used one of those refill kits to fill them and sealed off the hole.

    Second thing, I had Windows updates turned off, but last night I went to power down the PC and it went through the update, after it did it the PC shutdown.
    So I fired it up again and when I went in control panel to uninstall the new update I couldn't tell which was the new one because all the dates were not visible alongside the updates.
    I tried to change various views but none showed any details, any ideas there?

    Col.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColR1948 View Post
    2 things:
    First the printer ink, I saw a video one time where a guy bought 2 new ink cartridges, he opened them up and inside was a sponge plus ink, but the cartridges were not full, so obviously they soon run out.
    He used one of those refill kits to fill them and sealed off the hole.

    Second thing, I had Windows updates turned off, but last night I went to power down the PC and it went through the update, after it did it the PC shutdown.
    So I fired it up again and when I went in control panel to uninstall the new update I couldn't tell which was the new one because all the dates were not visible alongside the updates.
    I tried to change various views but none showed any details, any ideas there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The One And Only
    If you want to test the printers in a Windows 7 environment, then you can try a VMware image of 7. You'd launch the VMware instance which is called a guest operating system and try to print. It may or may not work seen is how this is a virtual environment. If itr prints in 7 and not 10 you'll no for sure what to blame.

    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...dge/tools/vms/

    I'm downloading that right now to see if it will work for your test.
    Nada. It won't work for a printer test. You'll have to have a copy of Win 7 for a VMware install.

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    Yes, fun fun fun with printers. The wife had complained years ago about printer ink as she was the "Buyer" for these at a local place. To cut down the cost, she thought a refilled cartridge would be good. Then was told "Refills" for our MP190 /210 will not work because with the Canons we have will not function with a "Refill." Canon put a "Non-Op" software code on the cartridge should you try to reuse it they told her. Later on, the shop then explained they could refill them... Apparently, they were able to counter the code. Next, the shop did not refill the cartridges enough to make it worthwhile. They ran out quickly. Then along comes the power of the net and a website wherein you can buy your own refill kit (Needles-ink bottles...). Then I learn all the shortcomings doing so. In the beginning I thought it was easier to just pry the top off the cartridges and directly fill them from the bottle. Very easy--too easy!!! You cannot fill these too much and then by breaking them open it causes adverse conditions for operation. Then Canon began making the refill process impossible. The cartridges would not work unless they were Canons and then those had to be new. Presently, I cannot get the refills to work. One printer seemed immune to changes for awhile because it was older. At the moment, I have new Canon cartridges in both and everything is bliss...until I try this refill stuff again. And as I said above, now Windows 10 gets into the act with the drivers. Just since I wrote the message above, Windows has installed 2 updates on my PC. I did go ahead and change the Driver update, but my PC does things regardless of my settings, and so, I did read that Windows 10 is truly now the age of "Big Brother." And yes, printers were relatively inexpensive because the manufacturers make all the money on the ink cartridges--it has been so said many times on the net. It's just so weird that I have been using Windows 10 since 2016 and there was never any issues with the printer original drivers up until July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDDAIR View Post
    ….. And as I said above, now Windows 10 gets into the act with the drivers. Just since I wrote the message above, Windows has installed 2 updates on my PC. I did go ahead and change the Driver update, but my PC does things regardless of my settings, and so, I did read that Windows 10 is truly now the age of "Big Brother."......

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    It's just so weird that I have been using Windows 10 since 2016 and there was never any issues with the printer original drivers up until July.

    Redd
    If you have followed the various links that have been provided in this thread, and depending on what options you have selected you should only receive updates to the OS itself and, if set, other MS products you may have installed (i.e. Office, Internet Explorer (if you still use it) etc).

    You cannot stop all updates using the options contained within the various windows settings - security and compatibility updates will still occur. If you really want to stop Win 10 updates completely, you will need to use 3rd party apps to do so, as suggested in some of the other posts.

    It could be that Canon did not release any 'new' drivers via MS until now. Also, it seems to have become the norm to use a standardised 'driver' package that combines many common files/drivers for all versions of a product produced, that release of 'universal' driver updates
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    I thought I had stopped updates on my PC until a few days ago and I got one.
    I since went in the settings and stopped them again, Aaron above said to use a 3rd party app.
    I did a quick search but all I got was page after page of various methods of turning off updates but no links to any apps.

    If someone knows of a good one can you please post a link.

    Col.

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