rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hi guys. I'm about to buy a brand new desktop to run FSX on high settings. I was wondering if I made the right choice by selecting the following parts. -intel core I7 9700k 3.6 GHz turbo boost 4.9 GHz -MSI B360M Bazooka socket 1151 -Arctic freezer 33 cpu cooler -Corsair 16GB DDR4-2666 -MSI Geforce GTX 1070 AERO ITX 8G -Corsair CX750M 750W feed -Crucial MX500 500 GB SSD I already have some payware addons like Flytampa Amsterdam and I'm gonna use FLAI ai traffic. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The components look good, EXCEPT the CPU!!!! Now, why do I say that? Because, in FSX, the basic clock rating has to be as high as possible, the number of cores or turbo boost doesn't matter much. The i7 9700K's base rating of 3.6 GHz is less than my i7 7700K's base rating of 4.2 GHz. Now, of course, you can overclock your CPU, which means that it runs permanently (as opposed to turbo boost) at a higher clock rate, and I run mine at 4.8 GHz. If you do overclock, beware (really beware) that all warranty goes out the window, and you have to keep an eye on the CPU's temperature. For more insight into all of this, try googling "overclocking" or similar terms. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Thanks for the answer. So i have to change for i7 7700 or overclock my 9700? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrom Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hi rastavriend, Notice that jorgan mentions a "K" suffix on the CPU iD, make sure whatever you buy it is a K version this will give you an unlocked multiplier for more effective overclocking. otherwise your CPU will only effectively use the stock Turbo mode on 2 cores. Unlocked multiplier CPU's are essential for Overclocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I would say go with the i7 7700K, and then overclock that if you feel the need to do so. I have an Asus Z170-A motherboard, and Asus provides utilities that makes overclocking a breeze with that board. No matter what motherboard you buy, do your homework first and look at the manufacturer's website to see how their documentation and utilities look and also what support options they have. One thing you're almost certain to want to do is upgrade the BIOS version that comes on the board you buy, so look into how that is done. Asus and several other motherboard manufacturers are located in Taiwan or other countries in the Far East, so make sure you can understand their version of English. Jorgen PS: Do not forget about the warranty on the CPU becoming instantly null and void if you as much as attempt to overclock! That is why I waited until the warranty on mine had nearly run out before I overclocked mine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Okay thanks for the advice. The problem i am buying the whole system on Alternate, but they don't sell i7 7700k CPU. I7 9700k is one of their best. I have no idea how to install components in a pc, afraid to mess up the whole system. So is it a problem if I buy the i7 9700k or will fsx run slow with lags? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddawson Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The 9700K will run all day at 4.9GHz. I think you'll be pretty happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Now, I don't know where you're located, but when I look at Alternate.de (because I am in Germany), they do sell the i7 7700K... You may want to look at all their Intel CPUs and see which one has the fastest base clock rate. If my memory doesn't completely fail me, then there was a thread not too long ago where an i5 model actually had a very fast clock rate, and price/performance-wise it was a bargain. The seller of course wants to sell you the i7 9700K, because then they make the most money! If they cannot - or will not - show you their whole selection of possible CPUs, so you can make a comparison side-by-side, then my advice is to take your business (and your money) somewhere else. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 I'm located in the Netherlands and the fastest base clock rate in indeed a i5 CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Since you're in the Netherlands, there's no reason that you cannot buy from Alternate.de - they will even put the system together for you. Just take a look at their site. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hi Jorgen I checked the German Alternate and put the system together. -geforce RTX 2060 6GB OC -i7 7700k -arctic freezer 33 cpu cooler -16gb ddr4 2666 kit -MX500 GB SSD -B250M Bazooka motherbord. Is this selection alright? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The selection looks fine, and parallels my own system quite a bit! You might want to see - if your budget allows - if this motherboard can accommodate faster RAM than the 2666 MHz, and also if you can get more than 16 GB of this faster RAM in your budget (if your OS will recognize more than 16 GB). This may not mean a lot for FSX, but if you later might want to migrate to P3D, you may find that useful. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Where can I see that about the motherbord ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Google is your friend! Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I would venture to say that in FSX, a 4.2 GHz 7700K would outperfom a 3.6 GHz 9700K. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1962 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Jorgen's right - there's no substitute for cubes, as they say in NASCAR, and it's the same for GHz in computer processors. Tim Wright "The older I get, the better I was..." Xbox Series X, Asus Prime H510M-K, Intel Core i5-11400F 4.40GHz, 16Gb DDR4 3200, 2TB WD Black NVME SSD, 1TB Samsung SATA SSD NVidia RTX3060 Ti 8Gb, Logitech Flight Yoke System, CH Pro Pedals, Acer K272HL 27", Windows 11 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 I ordered a i7 7700k 4.2 Ghz. One more question. I ordered also a 500 ssd. I don't think it is enough to install windows , fsx and all other programs on. Or am I wrong? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 You should definitely install Windows on a SSD. Opinions differ on the topic of installing FSX on a SSD, but here's how I have set mine up: C: a 2 TB SSD with Windows, diverse other software and P3D v4 with its scenery and AI aircraft D: DVD-ROM drive E: a 1 TB SSD with photoscenery common to FSX and P3D F: a 1 TB SSD with FSX and its AI aircraft and scenery G: a 1 TB HDD where I download and uncompress stuff - a work drive. AIFP and a couple of other utilities also reside here The SSDs are all Samsung 850 EVOs, and I am very happy with them. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 The 9700k would have been perfectly fine, and if you want to overclock it is a K sku. Now you bought a CPU that's a Kaby and not a Coffee Lake 9th generation. Here's some salt to go with the Internets You might wanna read what I said here:https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?314886-Pls-advice-on-upgrading-for-P3Dv4&p=2070101#post2070101 OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 We are actually past the CPU debate, and from personal experience I can tell you that the i7 7700K is a Good Choiceâ„¢. We can discuss ad nauseam if the 9700K might have been a better choice, but as I have read it, most people in the knowledge are iffy about what multiple cores (with or without hyperthreading) will do for FSX. All agree, however, that the best thing for FSX since peanut butter is raw clock speed. The question now was about SSDs.... Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 You own 5 tb ssd?? So 500 gb SSD isn't enough as I thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen.s.andersen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 SSD of 2 TB, 2 SSD of 1 TB, 1 HDD of 1 TB. But my FSX installation is not typical (I think, it's probably larger than most), and it also includes P3D. Jorgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 You said you can't access the bios. That could well be fixable. What exact mainboard model is that? Are you using Win10? Oh yes, also, when you try to access bios on startup (by pressing DEL.) what does happen. Simply boots into Windows? Or do you get some error message? Let me know all that and I'll have a look. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastavriend Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 I just ordered a 500 gb ssd, thats it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Sorry, I posted in the wrong thread by mistake. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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