Night textures loading in day! ORBX England.

Even though it's a bright sunny day, 13.30 local time, I am seeing night time textures.

 

 

Anyone had this before. Am open to help and advice!

 

Thanks

Andy

google the (real world) sunset time today for the (fsx-)area you are flying in.

 

Sunset in Alta Norway today for example is 12:48pm

(It's Winter, the sun is south of the equator, and in the high northern regions it gets dark early. Soon the sun won't rise at all any more in those very northern regions.)

 

(until next spring that is, when the sun will wander back north, and pop over the horizon again.)

 

(and then, next summer, when the sun has wandered well north of the equator, the sun will for a while not set anymore for those living in the high arcrtic regions. It will just "circle around" an not set.)

 

When I typed in Google: Alta Sunset

it led to this page:

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/norway/alta

Other option, in fsx, go to an airport near where that screenshot is taken.

Then press "Alt" for menu bar,

and select:

"World"--"Time and date"

select "today" and "sunset" and see what time that gives.

Even though it's a bright sunny day, 13.30 local time, I am seeing night time textures.

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]205999[/ATTACH]

 

Anyone had this before. Am open to help and advice!

 

Thanks

Andy

 

Where in England? Have you installed ALL the FTX textures that go with FTX England? Have you run FTX Central v3 at least once to ensure all the ORBX textures have been installed properly?

 

Once we have all pertinent information, we will advise pertinent solution...

Sunset today was 16:10 (local). I was flying in real time, 13:30 (local). Nowhere near sunset! Which Is why I'm finding this odd.

-Where- were you flying?

 

And another thought, what is your computer time and date set to? Is it perhaps a few hours out of whack?

Thanks! I appreciate the input. I was flying out of EGBB, Birmingham, England. The time on my PC matched the time set in FS, which was actual local time 13:30. I live nearby and it definitely was not getting dark! I'll attach another pic to show clear blue sky as it has been today, yet night lighting appearing. Very odd and as you can imagine totally kills the immersion!

I still think the time of year may be the reason. (especially if you had set date in fsx to december for example)

 

I tested at Edinburgh.

FSX didn't describe 17nov2018 13.30 as dusk. It called it day.

Which is correct, sunset in Edinburgh today is 16.02.

 

But, according to this site, at 17 nov 13.30 h in Edinburgh the sun was'nt exactly high in the sky.

It was at 12.6 degrees above the horizon. That' really is pretty low really.

https://www.suncalc.org/#/55.9103,-3.2742,15/2018.11.17/13:30/1/0

(nice site btw)

 

I tested at the airport, took some screenshots. It was pretty gloomy indeed. Not "night", but not quite "bright daylight" either.

 

 

London Luton - 17nov2018

sun highest point -- 11.45 -- 20 degrees above horizon.

sun at -- 13.30 -- 15.89 degrees above horizon.

 

And, in fsx, it also gets darker at 13.30 then at 11.45.

luton 11.45 17nov2018 a

 

Luton 17aug2018 13.30 a

 

In Edinburgh, at 13.30 it's even darker. Sun there is only 12.63 degrees above the horizon there.

EBG 17nov2018 13.30 a

 

Same locations and times, now "Locked Spot"

luton 11.45 17nov2018 b

 

Luton 17aug2018 13.30 b

 

EBG 17nov2018 13.30 b

 

 

In the post it's hard to see the difference, but I see the difference clearly when I flip through the pictures in "Picture Vieuwer".

You may download them if you want to do the same.

 

Here's direct links to the Suncalc.org site with the times and locations I used. (17 nov 2018).

London 11.45

https://www.suncalc.org/#/51.5073,-0.1276,16/2018.11.17/11:45/1/0

London 13.30

https://www.suncalc.org/#/51.5073,-0.1276,16/2018.11.17/11:45/1/0

Edinburgh 13.30

https://www.suncalc.org/#/55.9103,-3.2742,15/2018.11.17/13:30/1/0

 

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Another possibility altogether is that you are now seeing Fall or Winter textures in OrbX instead of the summer textures.

 

 

In case you are afraid the textures are damaged, set time and date to 6 august, mid-day, and check how the textures look in summer.

Or set the date to a month ago, when the sun was still a little higher.

Hi, I was flying between EGBB Birmingham and Jersey. I have the latest orbx libraries installed, I reinstalled them yesterday, I have run and re-run the migration tool, I have verified my installation of Orbx England and I have run FTX central many times since the issue occurred for the first time.

 

By the way, I'm not a newbie here, and I've been simming for many years, been on the forums here since 2005, and haven't seen anything like this before!

il88p, thank you for your research and input here. It seems the problem is inherent within FSX, or at least whatever part of the code tells FSX to start loading night textures. I have been simming for many years and have never seen this before - and I've never ever seen it in anyone else's screenshots either and I've been a member here since 2005.

 

I still think the night textures are loading way too soon, even though I admit after looking at your resources, it is getting "dark" or "darker" at 13.30 local time, the night textures should not be loading that early.

 

I've posted in the ORBX forums also but as yet, no reply.

 

Thanks again for the advice and the interesting links!

 

I still think the time of year may be the reason. (especially if you had set date in fsx to december for example)

 

I tested at Edinburgh.

FSX didn't describe 17nov2018 13.30 as dusk. It called it day.

Which is correct, sunset in Edinburgh today is 16.02.

 

But, according to this site, at 17 nov 13.30 h in Edinburgh the sun was'nt exactly high in the sky.

It was at 12.6 degrees above the horizon. That' really is pretty low really.

https://www.suncalc.org/#/55.9103,-3.2742,15/2018.11.17/13:30/1/0

(nice site btw)

 

I tested at the airport, took some screenshots. It was pretty gloomy indeed. Not "night", but not quite "bright daylight" either.

 

 

London Luton - 17nov2018

sun highest point -- 11.45 -- 20 degrees above horizon.

sun at -- 13.30 -- 15.89 degrees above horizon.

 

And, in fsx, it also gets darker at 13.30 then at 11.45.

luton 11.45 17nov2018 a

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206022[/ATTACH]

 

Luton 17aug2018 13.30 a

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206023[/ATTACH]

 

In Edinburgh, at 13.30 it's even darker. Sun there is only 12.63 degrees above the horizon there.

EBG 17nov2018 13.30 a

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206024[/ATTACH]

 

Same locations and times, now "Locked Spot"

luton 11.45 17nov2018 b

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206025[/ATTACH]

 

Luton 17aug2018 13.30 b

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206026[/ATTACH]

 

EBG 17nov2018 13.30 b

[ATTACH=CONFIG]206027[/ATTACH]

 

 

In the post it's hard to see the difference, but I see the difference clearly when I flip through the pictures in "Picture Vieuwer".

You may download them if you want to do the same.

 

Here's direct links to the Suncalc.org site with the times and locations I used. (17 nov 2018).

London 11.45

https://www.suncalc.org/#/51.5073,-0.1276,16/2018.11.17/11:45/1/0

London 13.30

https://www.suncalc.org/#/51.5073,-0.1276,16/2018.11.17/11:45/1/0

Edinburgh 13.30

https://www.suncalc.org/#/55.9103,-3.2742,15/2018.11.17/13:30/1/0

 

---------------

Another possibility altogether is that you are now seeing Fall or Winter textures in OrbX instead of the summer textures.

 

 

In case you are afraid the textures are damaged, set time and date to 6 august, mid-day, and check how the textures look in summer.

Or set the date to a month ago, when the sun was still a little higher.

Andrew, I'm seeing the same thing with UTX Europe and GEX Europe. It must be an FSX seasonal thing - I wouldn't expect FSX to account for Daylight Saving Time because it can vary from one country to another, even though they're at the same latitude.

Thank you Tim, I am in a way, a little pleased that it is happening to someone else, as annoying as it is! I wonder if there is a way we can tweak FSX to tell it to load the night textures at a later time?

 

 

Andrew, I'm seeing the same thing with UTX Europe and GEX Europe. It must be an FSX seasonal thing - I wouldn't expect FSX to account for Daylight Saving Time because it can vary from one country to another, even though they're at the same latitude.

Time zones in default fsx can get a bit messy. For example, when crossing the international date line you may b flying in daylight one moment and in darkness the next.

And sometimes when crossing a time zone the time does not shift the correct amount.

 

I recently installed this addon to fix the time zones. I don't have it very long yet, but it seems to do the job very nicely!:) While flying the time now seems to progress more naturally.

https://secure.simmarket.com/simelite-solutions-time-zone-fixer-fsx-p3d.phtml

 

 

It may well have zero bearing on this "issue". But I thought I'd let you know about the addon anyway. Especially with that time zone difference between UK and the Europe.