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    Quote Originally Posted by MrUnSavory View Post
    If you get P3D get the "ACADEMIC" version. Some people make a mistake and think they need the $200 dollar version but you don't. at $60 US it is a good deal.
    A good deal only if you qualify. Not for hobbyists, not for recreation. Fact.

    From LM:


    An academic license at a reduced price is available for educational purposes at the undergraduate college level and below (students in elementary, middle, high school or pursuing a bachelor’s degree).

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    For your convenience, here is the Prepar3D EndUserLicenseAgreement as set forth by Lockheed Martin

    - for the Academic Version

    https://secure.prepar3d.com/solo/pro...dOptionID=1089

    1. License Grant. Subject to the terms and conditions of this EULA, Licensor hereby grants Licensee a nontransferable, nonsublicenseable, nonexclusive license during the Term of this EULA to use the Software: (1) on a single computer, (2) by no more than one user at any one time, (3) in connection with Academic Education, (4) by students, instructors and staff associated with Licensee's Academic Education, (5) in the Territory, and (6) for purposes other than personal/consumer entertainment.
    14.13 "Academic Education" means education programs for elementary through undergraduate students in fundamental academic disciplines such as science, technology, engineering and math, including history and social sciences related thereto, but NOT in connection with graduate students, professional training or certification of any kind, including, but not limited to, military training, emergency responder training, commercial flight training, private pilot training, air traffic control training, airport ground control/logistics training, driver training or nautical training.
    For the Professional version

    https://secure.prepar3d.com/solo/pro...dOptionID=1096
    1. License Grant. Subject to the terms and conditions of this EULA, Licensor hereby grants Licensee a nontransferable, nonsublicenseable, nonexclusive license during the Term of this EULA to use the Software anywhere in the world, but only on no more than one computer; and only by no more than one user at any one time and for purposes other than personal/consumer entertainment.

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    Guys,we most certainly do NOT want internet policemen here!!!

    It is up to each of us to buy want we want! We do NOT need to be told.
    What you guys are doing is actually a form of bully tactics that has no place here.
    I'm sure that each & everyone of us can decide what we want to buy without the internet 'police' highlighting in bold & red what we can or cannot do! As for entertainment... we do not regard it as a game, we are learning all the time, academically speaking!

    So, please do NOT rant, point or wave fingers at those of us who have free will & a concience to do whatever we can, rightly or wrongly.

    Imagine... an actual 'student' owning P3D is, according to the EULA, not allowed to just relax & play around with maybe a vehicle, & be personally entertained by flying around & having a bit of fun, by flaunting actual aviation rules!!

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    Funny response. So, what you are proposing is, that everyone should just disregard any license restrictions? That when Mr. Internet Forum tells you to buy it, that somehow makes it OK?

    At least make people aware that there are strings attached when you recommend something.

    And yes, that is precisely how it is. The student is not to use the software in that manner. Just like you are not supposed to dry your dog in the Microwave. Which you can do of course. Just don't ask the manufacturer for support.
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    Of course I am googling, p3d's normal undiscounted price for either new or older versions is a fixed 200 dollars:
    https://www.prepar3d.com/prepar3d-store/

    xplane 10's price is 60$ when buying at the company and about the same or a bit more to buy from ebay. Only problem is with the limited raising of the chair (which is also realistic on one hand ,but less fun) is a bit disturbing- I saw youtube videos and it's the same case. I'll try to ask at xplane 10 sub forum about it if I won't find an answer here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zswobbie1 View Post
    So, please do NOT rant, point or wave fingers at those of us who have free will & a concience to do whatever we can, rightly or wrongly.
    Wrongly, indeed. Openly urging people to break software licensing terms doesn't require any "police" to say that its wrong. It just is … wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftldave View Post
    Wrongly, indeed. Openly urging people to break software licensing terms doesn't require any "police" to say that its wrong. It just is … wrong.

    There’s 3 people in the world that use P3Dud for ‘educational purposes’. The other several thousands use it for what’s it was designed for. ‘Entertainment purposes’.

    And judging by all the screenshots here and at jyoungsim.com, many are loving the entertainment value in it. It’s great that flightsim.com and jyoungsim.com are encouraging the entertainment side of it as well. Keeps the kids happy.

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    My dad got his pilots license for entertainment purposes. Every once in a while he flew for professional reasons, but rarely.

    Also, I JUST recently purchased a custom built computer from an acquaintance for $570. I installed P3D. Ive only flown twice. My first impressions....pretty darn good. I was actually a bit disappointed in some scenery looking a lot like FSX. nevertheless, yes, the upgrades and downloads will come over time. If your computer runs FSX well, you may be just as happy (for now), to upgrade your FSX with freeware and payware scenery. honestly, if I could have my 570 back, I think I would go back in time and upgrade my FSX, but Ive been flying flightsims for 25 years (yikes) So I guess Im pretty hard to impress, lol

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