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    Sorry guys, what is M$?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverheels2 View Post
    Sorry, I don't get it????
    Colin is referring to your statement made at the end of post #3

    ''By the way, never sign up for any service that require you to "register", or "open an account".
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    Quote Originally Posted by zswobbie1 View Post
    Sorry guys, what is M$?
    CRJ is referring to MS (i.e. Microsoft)……..
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    Quote Originally Posted by longbreak754 View Post
    Colin is referring to your statement made at the end of post #3

    ''By the way, never sign up for any service that require you to "register", or "open an account".
    Thank you. Now I get it. However, the apps I have looked at want not only your email, but also "..a telephone number..". They want the telephone number so they can sell it to a universe of sources who want to sell, solicit donation, and solicit opinions. This results in my phone alarming at all hours followed by a click then some automated voice saying "...hello (given name) aren't you tired of your...."

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    I haven't read all the comments in this tread, but I'm wander why some of you really use Internet at all? You get annoyed by getting message to update, annoyed by register pages asking questions etc.

    I'm not sure if use Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc, or use the Chrome browser. All these are collecting information about you. Which I'm aware of, but I can live with that. You don't have to reveal more information than is necessary. If companies know what pages you surf to, in order to send me offers, it's not a big deal for me. Besides the Firefox and I assume other browsers also, have options you can switch on, to stops some of this information gathering.

    This is how the Internet works. There are drawbacks, but for me the benefits outweighs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Msiipola View Post
    I haven't read all the comments in this tread, but I'm wander why some of you really use Internet at all? You get annoyed by getting message to update, annoyed by register pages asking questions etc.

    I'm not sure if use Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc, or use the Chrome browser. All these are collecting information about you. Which I'm aware of, but I can live with that. You don't have to reveal more information than is necessary. If companies know what pages you surf to, in order to send me offers, it's not a big deal for me. Besides the Firefox and I assume other browsers also, have options you can switch on, to stops some of this information gathering.

    This is how the Internet works. There are drawbacks, but for me the benefits outweighs.
    Correct Msiipola,
    These days I am finding very little benefit in having an internet connection at all, I liken it to the garbage programs on TV, even the news seems contrived for advertisers these days, yes even cable/satellite TV's lineup of repeat rubbish seen many times before. Virtual flying will just have to do as TV is not so good anymore. I would go bush if only I didn't want to maintain my few electronic connections and beloved Flight sim.
    Internet access for Flight simulation & software / news & Flight simulation forums are where my interests have always been, my desire to help someone with technical issues is where having internet access and the ability to communicate a potential solution.
    I used to order DVD's for products I was interested in, but we now live in a near fully digital download era, Downloads are huge and require a good internet speed & capacity, along with a secure functional healthy machine. Some programs will not function unless internet connected (they require licenced ID each time they start or are loaded as a utility for FS) not for me I don't like the fact that the primary program "FS" can be stifled by an addon requiring access but could be denied by the server owner or internet, ISP generally. For this reason no steam apps for me no icloud or any other cloud service, no Dropbox, too damn modern and risky I don't want my personal files kept or served by such unknown insecure entities who would sell your stuff to the highest bidder if they thought you could do nothing to prevent such a breech legally under their TOS. Let alone being hacked, which are literally the least of our problems, we have more to fear from those who do it legally because you the user clicked on the "Agree" button even after reading the terms, but had to proceed signing away your rights in order to use the device or software. So go ahead and click the Agree button anyway they say, we are nice people who would never harm you or ever allow security breach or sell your info beyond what you agreed in the TOS. (Ever read or fully understood the legal doublespeak in the binding "Terms of Service", btw a TOS agreement is completely different thing to a more trustworthy EULA, "Trust" me, when the terms change you will have no rights over your current info (they own it, or at least possess it), to do what they will, you have the option then to discontinue using the device or software or continue under the "new terms" even though they might not read to be in your best interests but serve the companies greater desire to erode your former rights. (Whata choice)
    The company could change hands, suffer financial loss and therefore spend little on your personal data security kept in their possession, or just pass you off to the highest unknown bidder.

    Good luck with FB, Twitter, Instagram, and other social media platforms, I do not use any of them, I have no desire to expose my personal life to data collectors / onsellers.
    One day when you have surrendered enough metadata, actual data, biometric data, iris scans, face recognition data, passport data, fingerprint data, linked account login info, personal pictures of yourself friends & family, you will be owned lock stock and barrel, your financial transactions, your level of debt/credit, health history, internet historys /searches tracked at every point, cctv will find you and record your movements in an (Orwellian nightmare) if trackers loose your last known position they can simply follow the last transaction or internet action gps location and so on..... What is your security worth to you. All might be little too late for some for the sake of perceived benefits.
    Need I say more. My profile exposure is extremely low, personal info is kept to an absolute minimum, I pay in cash, I do not travel any more or have a current passport.

    There are never enough benefits to outweigh the ever increasing downsides. I want my freedom intact, to live peacefully and unobserved, nobody owns my info, although once entered the www and social media will lay perpetual claim to your personal info to cross reference on large database super computers.

    Welcome to a new world of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethrom View Post
    Correct Msiipola,
    These days I am finding very little benefit in having an internet connection at all, I liken it to the garbage programs on TV, even the news seems contrived for advertisers these days, yes even cable/satellite TV's lineup of repeat rubbish seen many times before. Virtual flying will just have to do as TV is not so good anymore. I would go bush if only I didn't want to maintain my few electronic connections and beloved Flight sim.
    Internet access for Flight simulation & software / news & Flight simulation forums are where my interests have always been, my desire to help someone with technical issues is where having internet access and the ability to communicate a potential solution.
    I used to order DVD's for products I was interested in, but we now live in a near fully digital download era, Downloads are huge and require a good internet speed & capacity, along with a secure functional healthy machine. Some programs will not function unless internet connected (they require licenced ID each time they start or are loaded as a utility for FS) not for me I don't like the fact that the primary program "FS" can be stifled by an addon requiring access but could be denied by the server owner or internet, ISP generally. For this reason no steam apps for me no icloud or any other cloud service, no Dropbox, too damn modern and risky I don't want my personal files kept or served by such unknown insecure entities who would sell your stuff to the highest bidder if they thought you could do nothing to prevent such a breech legally under their TOS. Let alone being hacked, which are literally the least of our problems, we have more to fear from those who do it legally because you the user clicked on the "Agree" button even after reading the terms, but had to proceed signing away your rights in order to use the device or software. So go ahead and click the Agree button anyway they say, we are nice people who would never harm you or ever allow security breach or sell your info beyond what you agreed in the TOS. (Ever read or fully understood the legal doublespeak in the binding "Terms of Service", btw a TOS agreement is completely different thing to a more trustworthy EULA, "Trust" me, when the terms change you will have no rights over your current info (they own it, or at least possess it), to do what they will, you have the option then to discontinue using the device or software or continue under the "new terms" even though they might not read to be in your best interests but serve the companies greater desire to erode your former rights. (Whata choice)
    The company could change hands, suffer financial loss and therefore spend little on your personal data security kept in their possession, or just pass you off to the highest unknown bidder.

    Good luck with FB, Twitter, Instagram, and other social media platforms, I do not use any of them, I have no desire to expose my personal life to data collectors / onsellers.
    One day when you have surrendered enough metadata, actual data, biometric data, iris scans, face recognition data, passport data, fingerprint data, linked account login info, personal pictures of yourself friends & family, you will be owned lock stock and barrel, your financial transactions, your level of debt/credit, health history, internet historys /searches tracked at every point, cctv will find you and record your movements in an (Orwellian nightmare) if trackers loose your last known position they can simply follow the last transaction or internet action gps location and so on..... What is your security worth to you. All might be little too late for some for the sake of perceived benefits.
    Need I say more. My profile exposure is extremely low, personal info is kept to an absolute minimum, I pay in cash, I do not travel any more or have a current passport.

    There are never enough benefits to outweigh the ever increasing downsides. I want my freedom intact, to live peacefully and unobserved, nobody owns my info, although once entered the www and social media will lay perpetual claim to your personal info to cross reference on large database super computers.

    Welcome to a new world of pain.
    Well said Jethrom

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