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Thread: New Motherboard, CPU and Memory, Old SSD and Hard Drive

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    Default New Motherboard, CPU and Memory, Old SSD and Hard Drive

    I just bought a new motherboard, Z370, and a new CPU, i78700K, and new memory 16GB. I plan to rebuild my old computer using these new parts and keep my SSD and HD with all my programs and data intact. My old system has Windows 10 installed. My old system was also Intel based with an i7940 CPU and Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard and 12GB of memory.
    If I just do the rebuild and leave the old drives in the machine is it going to boot up and run everything as before or is it going to be way more complicated than that? Has anyone in the forum done this and can let me know how it worked out? Advice is needed soon, new parts will be here in a week.

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    I looked up your previous thread where you asked when selecting this hardware.
    There you said you have currently this sytem:
    Asus P6T Deluxe V2 motherboard
    i7940 CPU 2.93 GHz. -overclocked to 3.2
    12GB of DDR3 memory.

    Now going to a new system:
    (also from previous thread:
    Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake 6-core 3.7 GHz (4.7 GHz Turbo)
    Giabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 motherboard
    G.Skill Trident Z RGB series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 memory.

    So a different processor: i7 8700K
    And a different brand mainboard
    with a very different chipset: Z370


    For the Harddisk this change is a problem.
    Issue one is that the essential Chipset drivers and other core drivers are made to drive the old hardware. They will probably fail to drive the new hardware.
    If you can't boot, you cannot replace the drivers with your new drivers. (no running system to work with).
    And installing the new Chipset drivers while the disk is still in the old pc is also not an option, as those new drivers can't run the old pc.


    Issue two. Many Windows versions are OEM. They can only be installed on one pc. Not taken to a new pc.
    Replacing a single part, for example a videocard, does not make it a "new system", so the OEM licence stays valid.
    But replacing a mainboard, a new system makes. With the licence only valid for the original Mainboard, you will need a new licence for the new Mainboard.

    This is not the case in all Sold Windows Versions. OEM versions are limited like that. But Full copy's (more expensive) are not always limited and can be taken with you to the new mainboard.


    You could try, and then try fixing all the driver problems. But chances it will work are very slim.
    Better start with a fresh install.

    How is that HDD partitioned?
    How is that SSD partitioned?
    On which one is the C partition?
    And is the C partiton the only partiton on that drive?
    What partiton is fsx in? And where?

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    Thanks for the quick reply, not what I wanted to hear though.
    The SSD is drive C and contains Windows 10 and all my programs. I believe that is the only partition on that drive. The system boots from this drive. Also FSX and all of it's components are on the SSD. Originally the computer had Windows 7 Ultimate and I had purchased the boxed version and I still have it. When Windows 10 was offered for free I made the conversion, so I don't have a Windows 10 disk, The Hard Drive is as it was before I got the SSD so it has also all the programs and Windows 10. I only use it now to store all my other data like pictures, movies, documents, etc. I kept all the programs and Windows 10 on there as a backup. I also have an external HD that I use for backup and it has a system image on it along with everything else. Doing a complete reinstall of everything is going to be an arduous task and I would like to avoid that if possible.

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    Search Google for "swap motherboard without reinstalling windows". You will find a ton of information on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigT-65 View Post
    Doing a complete reinstall of everything is going to be an arduous task and I would like to avoid that if possible.
    You can download a tool from Microsoft which will make a Windows 10 installation disk/USB drive for you: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10.

    Whilst a new, clean installation is a pain, it's much less likely to throw up issues (particularly surprises in the future) compared to trying to make your old installation work - there's a good chance you won't even get it to boot to make the driver changes. A clean install of the OS is always going to give better performance and you can also be sure that there won't be anything hanging around from the old components. You'll get a leaner, faster system which is better optimised for you new components.
    Last edited by lesh; 05-17-2018 at 01:39 PM.

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    Ok. Understood.
    I will give the reinstall process a bit more though later.

    For now though some info on the Win10 upgrade.
    -You can download the install files for Windows 10 for free!
    If you upgraded to Windows10 (free upgrade), downloading them is a good idea.
    There are two versions I think.
    From memory: Some users had Windows without utilities like RealPlayer and such. For them there is a different Install file download. I think it was mainly users in Europe that had that version.
    Sorry, I don't remember the details.
    Anyway get the correct version. Both downloads are on the same page on the Microsoft site.
    (Or get both just in case..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesh View Post
    You can download a tool from Microsoft which will make a Windows 10 installation disk/USB drive for you: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10.
    Thanks for this link, I will make the installation disk. I do have a "System Repair Disk" for Win 10 64 Bit that I made when I upgraded from 7 to 10. Is that the same thing or not and will it help me with this problem?

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    The install files can only install win10 for free on the old pc. When you did the upgrade, you did not recieve a new activation code for the new OS.
    Instead, during the Win7 to Win10 upgrade, the Id-number of the old pc was sent to the microsoft server and stored there. So they 'know' your hardware. And if you now reinstall win10 on that old pc fresh, it will activate.

    However, without a Win10 activation code you can not activate win10 on the new pc.
    You will need to buy a Win10 licence.

    It is not an option to install your old OEM win7 on the new pc and then upgrade to 10. After all, the free upgrade offer is over.

    Plus, after you upgraded to win10 you had 3 months to decide. After that time the new OS gets locked in, and your win7 OEM licence code becomes invalid.

    All this goes for OEM licences. They are tied to the hardware they were first installed on.

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    something you could try:
    -Buy Windows licence code.
    -Plug old ssd into new pc.
    -Turn it on and pray the system Boots, despite the wrong Chipset drivers.
    -If it does boot, you will probably see a greyed out desktop and a message: "this copy of Win is not activated. The system will shut down in 1 minute." .
    At that point you should somehow be able to re-activate Win10 using the new licence code.
    And if that works you will still have to hope to fix the problems with the incorrect Chipset drivers. (BTW, these incorrect drivers can actually damage the new pc parts. Sending wrong commands to the parts can cause damage. )

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    all in all, installing fresh is way simpler and probably faster too.
    -Buy a new ssd and a copy of Win10.
    -plug the new ssd in.
    -install win10 on the new pc.
    Start installing programs and data on the new pc, and in the mean time keep using the old pc.

    Move the old drives over only when you are good and ready. (and maybe format then before installing then in the new pc.).

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    You have the best hardware you can get and are going to mess it all up because of software? MoxNix. If I was you I would install Win 7 Ultimate (if 64 bit) and get rid of obnoxious, snooping, Win 10. But that just me. But, yes, that image is for Win 10. Back up files. The file system is same (ntfs).

    So you hook everything up. You boot to 10. Uninstall 10. Reboot. Put Win 7 disc in optical drive. Reboot and go from there. You best only have the SSD hooked up. Leave the HDDrive disconnected for now. Once Win 7 and your SSD are working then hook up HDDrive and it should recognize it. Your files are still there and safe irregardless.

    I find Win 10 a pita. It calls home with all the info it can garner from ALL activity. Why? No matter. I don't like that. And if you change anything it refuses to work. It has an 'attitude'. They made Win 10 for business work (so they can sell you Office 65=TEXT not GRAPHICS) so not for 'games' with 'controllers'.
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    What about this that I found on Microsoft website?

    Reactivating Windows 10 after a hardware change
    Applies to: Windows 10
    ________________________________________
    In Windows 10 (Version 1607 or later), you can link your Microsoft account to the Windows 10 digital license on your device. This can help you reactivate Windows using the Activation troubleshooter if you make a significant hardware change later, such as replacing the motherboard.
    Note
    To see what version of Windows 10 your PC is running, select the Start button , then select Settings > System > About.
    To add your Microsoft account and link it to the digital license:
    1. Select the Start button, select Settings > Update & security > Activation > and then select Add an account. You must be signed in as an administrator to add your Microsoft account.
    2. Enter your Microsoft account and password, and then select Sign in. You’ll also need to enter the password for your local account if the Microsoft account you entered isn’t a connected account.
    3. After you add your Microsoft account, you’ll see Windows is activated with a digital license linked to your Microsoft account on the Activation page.
    Note
    If you've already added your Microsoft account to your device, you'll see Windows is activated with a digital license linked to your Microsoft account on the Activation page.

    Using the Activation troubleshooter after a significant hardware change
    After you add your Microsoft account and link it to your digital license, you can use the Activation troubleshooter to help reactivate Windows after a significant hardware change.
    Note
    If you didn't add your Microsoft account and link it to the digital license on your device, you won't be able to use the Activation troubleshooter to reactivate Windows after a hardware change.


    1. Select the Start button, select Settings > Update & security > Activation , and then select Troubleshoot. You must be signed in as an administrator.
    2. The troubleshooter will show a message that Windows can’t be activated on your device. Select I changed hardware on this device recently, and then select Next.
    3. Enter your Microsoft account and password, and then select Sign in. You’ll also need to enter the password for your local account if the Microsoft account you entered isn’t a connected account.
    4. From the list of devices that are linked to your Microsoft account, select the device that you’re currently using, select the check box next to This is the device I’m using right now, and then select Activate.
    If you don’t see the device you’re using in the list of results, make sure that you’re signed in using the same Microsoft account you linked to the Windows 10 digital license on your device.
    If you’re signed in using the correct Microsoft account, here are some additional reasons why you can’t reactivate Windows:


    • The edition of Windows on your device doesn’t match the edition of Windows you linked to your digital license.
    • The type of device you’re activating doesn’t match the type of device you linked to your digital license.
    • Windows was never activated on your device.
    • You reached the limit on the number of times you can reactivate Windows on your device.
    • Your device has more than one administrator, and a different administrator already reactivated Windows on your device.
    • Your device is managed by your organization and the option to reactivate Windows isn’t available. For help with reactivation, contact your organization’s support person.
    If you need additional help reactivating Windows on your device, contact customer support.

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