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Thread: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

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    Default How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    How do people get permission to take pictures of a commercial
    airliner cockpit? I've seen cockpit landing pictures on
    airliners.net from people who seem to have just been passengers.



    Tim


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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    I do it all the time, just ask the pilots. Most will comply, but usually after the flight on the way out! :7

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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    Tim
    At this point in time, it is vertually impossable to take pictures of airline cockpits in the US, especially when in flight.

    Ernie

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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    >How do people get permission to
    >take pictures of a commercial
    >
    >airliner cockpit? I've seen cockpit landing pictures on
    >airliners.net from people who seem to have just been passengers.
    >Tim

    You could also email the public relations department for
    the manufacturer of the aircraft. I was doing a panel for
    an aircraft and the people at the factory were very helpful.

    Christopher Tarana



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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    Many of those people are also professional photographers with press credentials and that gives them access.

    Truly you should wait til the plane emptys, have some ID or a business card and just ask. I have taken countless photos in this fashion.

    Todd :-wave

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    Good point Todd but I might qualify your statement. Just because a person has press credentials does not automatically give them access to a cockpit now days. It takes prior paperwork asking for access and to have it approved in almost all situations. An ID card or business card does not do it any more. Of course this is for the US and am not up to date on other countries.

    Ernie


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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    Another point. Someone who may be just a "passenger" is quite possibly a jumpseater. A qualified pilot from the same airline or another airline sitting in the cockpit jumpseat. While both captain and FO may be at the controls, another pilot hitching a ride home may be holding the camera.

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    Khir
    Again a comment if I may. Authorized jump seat for non essential, deadhead, on-line flight crew is almost imposable now days too. Off line deadhead is a thing of the past. I use the words almost imposable since if done by the books, anything is passable but now days, it takes lots of paper work compared to what it was say 10 years ago.

    By the way, no flame intended....

    Ernie

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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    Not taken as a flame, but I have been given to understand that off-line jumpseating has become less and less of a hassle over the past few months, and on-line jumpseating was never really too much of a problem. It's a simple matter of your crews have to get to their plane, and as often as not, their plane doesn't happen to occupy the same cities in which the crewmembers live. If it became too much of a hassle, 121, and even some 135 operators would be having a lot more trouble getting crews where they need to be than they seem to be having now.

    -Khir
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    have fallen sloppy dead,
    and the White Knight is talking backwards,
    and the Red Queen's 'Off with her head!'
    Remember what the dormouse said:
    'Feed your head. Feed your head.'"
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    Default RE: How do people get permission to take pictures of a cockpit ?

    [font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-20-03 AT 11:11PM (EST)[/font][p]I think a few definitions are in order. A deadhead pilot is one who is on duty, but not assigned as a required crewmember on a particular flight as they are required to be somewhere for company purposes. That deadhead pilot is usually not required to occupy the cockpit jumpseat and usually, passengers will be bumped to get a deadhead crewmember on. A commuting pilot is someone who is lives in a city and based at another. A commuting pilot is responsible for their own travel and being in their domicile before their sign in time and when traveling is not on duty. A commuting pilot will usually take the cockpit jumpseat if the back is full. An off-line jumpseater is a pilot who asks for the cockpit jumpseat on a carrier but doesn't work for that carrier. At the moment, I can only ride the cockpit jumpseat on AMR (AA or AE) or codeshare (TSA, Chautauqua) aircraft. If I were to want to get the jumpseat on a Delta or United flight, I would be an off-line jumpseater. Unfortunately, there will have to be a seat available in the back as off-line jumpseaters are not authorized access to the flight deck jumpseat, whereas, before the fall of 2001, I would. ALPA is working hard to get our off-line reciprocal jumpseat priveleges restored but it hasn't happened yet. Riding the cockpit jumpseat is not really a comfortable ride and if a seat is available in the back, that's where most of us will sit if given the choice.

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