tgon Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I've brakes (. period key) and parking brake (Ctrl + . period key) set up on my Saitek X52 Pro via FSUIPC. I've noticed that using the brakes will also disengage the parking brake. This is undesirable when parked and I accidentally activate the brake trigger which may cause the aircraft to roll forward if the engines are operating. How can I stop this happening? To me, a parking brake is a separate function, like in a motor car. Thanks in advance. Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 If you have ever noticed....tapping the brakes will also disengage the Autobrakes. Maybe an editing change in the Controls/Standard XML? That's the only thing I can think of. Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il88pp Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Just make sure the're set before starting engines. + sets releases + also releases To make sure it's set: make sure it's released by pressing: then set it with: + [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Oh noes mrzippy, you were my best hope! standard.xml seems to only map the default controls. There dosent seem to be anything in there that would alter the logic of braking and the park brake function. I'm wanting to separate the dependency. I wonder if PMDG's 737, 747, 777 models have this realistic separation of functions? Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnorris Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I manually operate the parking brake lever in the cockpit. CLX - SET Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9 10850K - 32GB DDR4 3000GHz Memory - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 960GB SSD + 4TB HDD - Windows 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I manually operate the parking brake lever in the cockpit. Morning Jeff! Does stepping on the brakes release the lever? Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cianpars Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 On most light aircraft, pushing the toe brakes will disengage the parking break, so this is natural and properly represented in the sim. Feel free to adjust yours if you don't like realism though. IAN Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia 3080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingnorris Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Morning Jeff! Does stepping on the brakes release the lever? Yeah, but I manually release them myself. CLX - SET Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9 10850K - 32GB DDR4 3000GHz Memory - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 960GB SSD + 4TB HDD - Windows 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 On most light aircraft, pushing the toe brakes will disengage the parking break, so this is natural and properly represented in the sim. Feel free to adjust yours if you don't like realism though. IAN And on a 737? Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 And on a 737? Same, the lever only locks on the brakes. In the 737 pressing the toe brakes will release the parking brake, exactly the same as on 172. This is normal practice and should be dealt with by the simmer changing their pattern of operation - stop `accidentally` doing the thing that you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzippy Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 And on a 737? Interesting reading about how the parking brake is use on a RW 737. It looks like the pilot would press his toe brakes down, while there is still power to the aircraft, and would then set the parking brake, which then holds the pedals down. Stepping on the pedals again will release them. This may be an overly simplified explanation! Still thinking about a new flightsim only computer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 But it would suggest that FSX replicates the cross function well. I shall just have to be more careful. [emoji19] Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napamule2 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 You could assign anything (view change (A or S)), etc) to the joy trigger which would effectively 'disable' it for 'brake' function. So you would be left with having to push '.' for brakes. I myself NEED 'trigger' mapped as 'brake' (for differential braking using joy twist grip and brakes (trigger) at the same time when doing taxi turns. I GOTTA have THAT. Your call. Chuck B Napamule i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D:). FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgon Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 The only way to separate the functions would be to issue a left AND right differential brakes at the same time, assigned to the trigger. FSUPIC can't do this I think. Best, Phil https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKdirect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krasen Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Greetings All, If you have a registered copy of FSUIPC you can assign a percent traveled to the brake axis that will keep the parking brake from disengaging. That is to say that you must press the brake pedal through at least X% before the parking brake will release. You'll find the info in the Advanced User Manual, Page 10. Here's the basic extract: BrakeReleaseThreshold=75: This controls a "brake release threshold", for when your braking is controlled by toe pedals rather than by using the keyboard or joystick buttons assigned to non-axis brake controls. In the latter cases, operating the brakes automatically releases the parking brake (and possibly may also cancel autobraking action). This doesn't normally happen with brake axes being used for braking, as they are separate controls. That could be viewed as a drawback of having proper toe brake action, so this parameter is provided to set the amount of braking needed to release the parking brake. The parameter can be set in the [General] section, for application to all aircraft, but also, or instead, in the individual [JoystickCalibration] sections so it can be set individually to suit different aircraft or profiles. The specifc value overrides the general one. The number is a percentage Respectfully, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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